Robiert
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numero1
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very simply I had limited myself to suggest a couple of names for the new company/consortium/ what will be......I don't want you looking for me in the whole forum. I missed your speech.
you write to me:
You shaved something important.
start thinking about a name for the structure for which there is a free domain.
must be not too long (it would be better not more than 7-8 characters).
must have characteristics of internationality (that is not for example Italian designers).
if something beautiful comes to mind, we exchange it privately, I don't want anyone passing through to register the domain on your behalf to break the boxes. And rightly Sandra blew my little contribution, I thought you saw it.
And I wanted to know your opinion, that's all.
Hi.
maxopus
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Now I understand, there is no problem, when it will be time we will decide which to choose from the different ideas received.very simply I had limited myself to suggest a couple of names for the new company/consortium/ what will be......
you write to me:
You shaved something important.
start thinking about a name for the structure for which there is a free domain.
must be not too long (it would be better not more than 7-8 characters).
must have characteristics of internationality (that is not for example Italian designers).
if something beautiful comes to mind, we exchange it privately, I don't want anyone passing through to register the domain on your behalf to break the boxes. And rightly Sandra blew my little contribution, I thought you saw it.
And I wanted to know your opinion, that's all.
Hi.
numero1
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Then can I send them away?
maxopus
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Sure. :smile:Then can I send them away?
linch
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max, I think it is essential to extend the arrangement of sturmtruppen for at least one more week, to welcome all professionals who believe in the project.
This term will be indispensable for each of the participants to disclose sensitive data, and of course access to such data must be allowed exclusively to the members of the working group.
Have you thought how to do this?
This term will be indispensable for each of the participants to disclose sensitive data, and of course access to such data must be allowed exclusively to the members of the working group.
Have you thought how to do this?
maxopus
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I think we should privately exchange email addresses and use email and other means of communication for undisclosed data publicly.max, I think it is essential to extend the arrangement of sturmtruppen for at least one more week, to welcome all professionals who believe in the project.
This term will be indispensable for each of the participants to disclose sensitive data, and of course access to such data must be allowed exclusively to the members of the working group.
Have you thought how to do this?
If you think it's useful to wait a bit longer, it's not a problem for me.
linch
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I thought of a space "dedicated" and "off-limits" on the forum.
It might be very useful, but I don't know if it's possible.
It might be very useful, but I don't know if it's possible.
lattu
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Of course it is possible. you can make a section visible to all but accessible only by passwordI thought of a space "dedicated" and "off-limits" on the forum.
It might be very useful, but I don't know if it's possible.
if interested we have to make the request to sandra
maxopus
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I never used the features you indicated and I had not even thought about it. I'll let you know.
gerod
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I lost a lot of post and the thread of speech. That's not good.
the dedicated section is feasible, ask for gianni.
I think we have to evaluate who is really interested... how?
Do you want the psychologist?
Meanwhile the filter with closed section is a good start.
I will try to read the old posts, at most I will ask that someone give me a summary....
the dedicated section is feasible, ask for gianni.
I think we have to evaluate who is really interested... how?
Do you want the psychologist?
Meanwhile the filter with closed section is a good start.
I will try to read the old posts, at most I will ask that someone give me a summary....
maxopus
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in these days I am thinking of a topic that we will have to discuss: If we work on complex projects, and we will be working on the same project, I think it will be necessary to implement a pdm/plm system.
I think they will be acidic cabbage, because our environment is multicad and find a solution that works well with everything we have for the hands will not be easy.
we hope that there is a solution that can properly manage the whole ambaradan.
do you have experiences in this sense? (with different cads to manage).
because commercials make a great deal of talk about their solutions but then they feel stories that leave alibiti.
I spoke a little time ago with a big company that used pro/e and how plm they chose teamcenter.
their experience is bad and I can't understand what it depends on, whether by the lack of interaction of the two systems or by the fact that they don't use it properly.
If such a big company makes a snitch... we will have to be careful, because when you step up, it will be an important step.
I'd like you to talk about your experiences.
I have very good knowledge (I have been involved in the past for a long time) about the management of working cycles, the basics, the external warehouses, the processing account, the times and methods.
the speech plm is for me new matter is I only have the concept of what is in general terms.
I think they will be acidic cabbage, because our environment is multicad and find a solution that works well with everything we have for the hands will not be easy.
we hope that there is a solution that can properly manage the whole ambaradan.
do you have experiences in this sense? (with different cads to manage).
because commercials make a great deal of talk about their solutions but then they feel stories that leave alibiti.
I spoke a little time ago with a big company that used pro/e and how plm they chose teamcenter.
their experience is bad and I can't understand what it depends on, whether by the lack of interaction of the two systems or by the fact that they don't use it properly.
If such a big company makes a snitch... we will have to be careful, because when you step up, it will be an important step.
I'd like you to talk about your experiences.
I have very good knowledge (I have been involved in the past for a long time) about the management of working cycles, the basics, the external warehouses, the processing account, the times and methods.
the speech plm is for me new matter is I only have the concept of what is in general terms.
radio
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As for me as pdm I only use insights (integrated into solid edge) at the least of its possibilities.
no experience with a plm, although solid edge integrates something in "view and annotation", but I never used it.
I throw it there, and start with an open source type sw What?expandable if necessary, and to what they say adopted by many and disparate companies; is only pdm though.
if you find a path you could deepen, do some simulation, since you start from scratch...; If it is too risky to beat the open source road, let's lose.
Of course it seems a bit early to address these topics, but you max are always a step forward... :biggrin:
Night.
no experience with a plm, although solid edge integrates something in "view and annotation", but I never used it.
I throw it there, and start with an open source type sw What?expandable if necessary, and to what they say adopted by many and disparate companies; is only pdm though.
if you find a path you could deepen, do some simulation, since you start from scratch...; If it is too risky to beat the open source road, let's lose.
Of course it seems a bit early to address these topics, but you max are always a step forward... :biggrin:
Night.
linch
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I think the problem you raised is that it is practically impossible to create a single working group.
there are macroscopic incompatibilities both for the different software used, and for the different technical cultures.
I would initially opt for the aggregation of similar skills, compatible both as work tools, technical knowledge, and possibly even in geographical areas.
in poor words, specialized groups, technically autonomous, but always linked to the initial project.
I do not see any other solutions at present.
I'd be happy if someone forgot me.
there are macroscopic incompatibilities both for the different software used, and for the different technical cultures.
I would initially opt for the aggregation of similar skills, compatible both as work tools, technical knowledge, and possibly even in geographical areas.
in poor words, specialized groups, technically autonomous, but always linked to the initial project.
I do not see any other solutions at present.
I'd be happy if someone forgot me.
IPdesign
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talking about plm / pdm etc many times there is a great confusion .I spoke a little time ago with a big company that used pro/e and how plm they chose teamcenter.
their experience is bad and I can't understand what it depends on, whether by the lack of interaction of the two systems or by the fact that they don't use it properly.
If such a big company makes a snitch... we will have to be careful, because when you step up, it will be an important step.
I put a link that can probably help clarify the ideas about terminologies better.
I do not mention the goodness of the system as they are aside, I have a teamcenter license (although as a single user makes no sense to use it ) and so I may not be objective.
would like to deepen better with your interlocutor max to understand what were disappointed by tc and what need they had when they bought it.
the configuration of a plm is quite articulate and it still needs skilled people to keep it in perfertta efficenza, we are still talking about database .
Surely it is a multicad system and this is undeniable, then clearly everyone says his.
here is the link http://vimeo.com/29473630
maxopus
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on the definition of em/pdm/plm bring back some definitions collected on web so as to understand us on the topic we are talking about.
if the definitions do not seem correct, give me your version:
engineering data managementedm is a digital data storage system on a computer or server.
description:
technical documents can be managed through a database with a graphical interface that allows the user to perform some useful and often repetitive operations. edm or tdm is used precisely to this: it is usually a software application that can manage a common archive to multiple users, or even to a single user who needs particular order and file management conditions, such as those necessary for correct use of cad 3d.
the em sees archived within it usually only technical documents, drawings and 3d models, at the most related to different documents with a reference link; the elm then manages access to the archive, research and controlled reproduction of different amounts of related documents (and is often a "already" version of the product data management (pdm).
pdm - product data managementthe product data manager, is a computer tool able to collect information about a product.
the peculiar features of a pdm are:
allowing easy storage of the document usually no longer linked to storage in the file system but through a logic more suitable to the project;
allow to codify a document so as to assign a unique identification string to facilitate the traceability of the same;
allow quick access to the document through its code;
allow a search of the document through the metadata of this. in the specific case of the technical design are usually identified with the data included in the registration table also called the cartiglio;
allows the historicalization of the data so that it can verify the evolution of this in the various stages;
allows to store technical specifications automatically within a database that regulates the business economic cycle of the same;
allows the display with light formats of the archived documents (in pdf or, for cad formats, in dwf, formats respectively of adobe and autodesk).
an important functionality, dictated by the normal implementation methodology of pdms, is the link between metadata, usually stored on a structured database, and documents, usually filed on file systems. This functionality allows easy creation and implementation of automatic processing with consequent launch of actions that involve also thousands of documents.
pdm manages files of various formats (pdf, text, excel, cad 2d file or with 3d modeling, and any tables in native format, or the classic dwg of autocad) within a menu organized in expandable folders and with an internal search engine. has automatic import and export functionality, all file types, for simple dragging of folders inside and outside the pdm interface, and an internal search engine, allows the consultation of documents by opening the reading program inside the application (such as reading a .pdf file by opening acrobat reader directly in the browser), or in a stand-alone screen, outside the pdm.
a typical structure is the one that follows the distinct product base and connects to the code of each component the relative documents (different base, processing cycle/assembly, drawings, price list of the purchased).
plm product lifecycle managementthe management of the product life cycle, is a strategic approach to the management of information, processes and resources in support of the life cycle of products and services, from their conception, development, market launch, withdrawal. plm is not only a computer technology, but rather an integrated approach, based on a set of technologies, on collaborative work organization methodologies and process definition.
Principles [modifica]the goal of plm is to optimize (less time, lower costs, higher quality, lower risks) development, launch, modification and withdrawal of products or services from the market.
plm is based on shared access to a common source from which to draw data, information and processes related to the product. is a business strategy that allows the extended enterprise to bring product innovation or service throughout the life cycle, from conception to obsolescence, as if to operate it was a single entity and creating an archive of valuable intellectual capital reusable at any time. In short, plm is a support for innovation.
for example, in the automotive sector, the application of plm methodologies and systems allow the exchange of information - while these are still in progress - among designers of the car shell, designers of the molds with which the shell and designers of the components (e.g. lights) will be produced that will be mounted on the shell. exchange information between members of the extended team - which includes different resources of different business departments, in addition to customers and external partners - is the basis of collaboration.
plm is used, od is being evaluated, in manufacturing, energy, defense, pharmaceutical and chemical industries, food, textiles and clothing and others.
plm is frequently put on the same level as other business approaches with which it is complementary (and in some respects overlapping) such as the resource planning (erp), customer relationship management (crm) and supplier relationship management (srm).
modules [modifica]plm consists of a series of modules that contribute and collaborate to the development of the product; these can be categorized as follows:
product data management: management of technical documentation (cad/cam/cae) and project (documents related to technical material relating to products); often includes a management of the document lifecycle in parallel with the definition of the main processes of work related to the production of the same (see workflow management).
product structure management: management of product configuration (structure, bom).
configuration management: management of variants and production batches.
change management: management of changes of one or more entities that describe the product.
workflow management: data flow management tool.
catalog library: handles of normalized components and standard parts ( bolts, resistors....).
supply chain management: data exchange management with subcontractors.
in some cases, for synods, they consider themselves inclusive of the plm technology family also to the production tools of the technical data itself (cad/cam/cae)
the implementation of one or more modules in a plm system depends on the degree of integration you want to give to the production process.
if the definitions do not seem correct, give me your version:
engineering data managementedm is a digital data storage system on a computer or server.
description:
technical documents can be managed through a database with a graphical interface that allows the user to perform some useful and often repetitive operations. edm or tdm is used precisely to this: it is usually a software application that can manage a common archive to multiple users, or even to a single user who needs particular order and file management conditions, such as those necessary for correct use of cad 3d.
the em sees archived within it usually only technical documents, drawings and 3d models, at the most related to different documents with a reference link; the elm then manages access to the archive, research and controlled reproduction of different amounts of related documents (and is often a "already" version of the product data management (pdm).
pdm - product data managementthe product data manager, is a computer tool able to collect information about a product.
the peculiar features of a pdm are:
allowing easy storage of the document usually no longer linked to storage in the file system but through a logic more suitable to the project;
allow to codify a document so as to assign a unique identification string to facilitate the traceability of the same;
allow quick access to the document through its code;
allow a search of the document through the metadata of this. in the specific case of the technical design are usually identified with the data included in the registration table also called the cartiglio;
allows the historicalization of the data so that it can verify the evolution of this in the various stages;
allows to store technical specifications automatically within a database that regulates the business economic cycle of the same;
allows the display with light formats of the archived documents (in pdf or, for cad formats, in dwf, formats respectively of adobe and autodesk).
an important functionality, dictated by the normal implementation methodology of pdms, is the link between metadata, usually stored on a structured database, and documents, usually filed on file systems. This functionality allows easy creation and implementation of automatic processing with consequent launch of actions that involve also thousands of documents.
pdm manages files of various formats (pdf, text, excel, cad 2d file or with 3d modeling, and any tables in native format, or the classic dwg of autocad) within a menu organized in expandable folders and with an internal search engine. has automatic import and export functionality, all file types, for simple dragging of folders inside and outside the pdm interface, and an internal search engine, allows the consultation of documents by opening the reading program inside the application (such as reading a .pdf file by opening acrobat reader directly in the browser), or in a stand-alone screen, outside the pdm.
a typical structure is the one that follows the distinct product base and connects to the code of each component the relative documents (different base, processing cycle/assembly, drawings, price list of the purchased).
plm product lifecycle managementthe management of the product life cycle, is a strategic approach to the management of information, processes and resources in support of the life cycle of products and services, from their conception, development, market launch, withdrawal. plm is not only a computer technology, but rather an integrated approach, based on a set of technologies, on collaborative work organization methodologies and process definition.
Principles [modifica]the goal of plm is to optimize (less time, lower costs, higher quality, lower risks) development, launch, modification and withdrawal of products or services from the market.
plm is based on shared access to a common source from which to draw data, information and processes related to the product. is a business strategy that allows the extended enterprise to bring product innovation or service throughout the life cycle, from conception to obsolescence, as if to operate it was a single entity and creating an archive of valuable intellectual capital reusable at any time. In short, plm is a support for innovation.
for example, in the automotive sector, the application of plm methodologies and systems allow the exchange of information - while these are still in progress - among designers of the car shell, designers of the molds with which the shell and designers of the components (e.g. lights) will be produced that will be mounted on the shell. exchange information between members of the extended team - which includes different resources of different business departments, in addition to customers and external partners - is the basis of collaboration.
plm is used, od is being evaluated, in manufacturing, energy, defense, pharmaceutical and chemical industries, food, textiles and clothing and others.
plm is frequently put on the same level as other business approaches with which it is complementary (and in some respects overlapping) such as the resource planning (erp), customer relationship management (crm) and supplier relationship management (srm).
modules [modifica]plm consists of a series of modules that contribute and collaborate to the development of the product; these can be categorized as follows:
product data management: management of technical documentation (cad/cam/cae) and project (documents related to technical material relating to products); often includes a management of the document lifecycle in parallel with the definition of the main processes of work related to the production of the same (see workflow management).
product structure management: management of product configuration (structure, bom).
configuration management: management of variants and production batches.
change management: management of changes of one or more entities that describe the product.
workflow management: data flow management tool.
catalog library: handles of normalized components and standard parts ( bolts, resistors....).
supply chain management: data exchange management with subcontractors.
in some cases, for synods, they consider themselves inclusive of the plm technology family also to the production tools of the technical data itself (cad/cam/cae)
the implementation of one or more modules in a plm system depends on the degree of integration you want to give to the production process.
Matteo
Guest
I suggest dbworks (dbclaim, ...) of mechworks that is multi cad and quite simple and functional.in these days I am thinking of a topic that we will have to discuss: If we work on complex projects, and we will be working on the same project, I think it will be necessary to implement a pdm/plm system.
....
But this seems to me that the problem of the pdm should be put forward, it seems in order to start "in small and in few" and simplifying to the maximum the modalities of collaboration and the initial investment.
Fulvio Romano
Guest
actually maybe we are working too zoomed. . .But this seems to me that the problem of the pdm should be put forward, it seems in order to start "in small and in few" and simplifying to the maximum the modalities of collaboration and the initial investment.
from a consortium that works on the distribution of objectives to which each group preformed for competence works independently, we have passed to methodologies of modeling/design to multiple hands.
the first imprinting I would swear that will work, on the second I have my doubts, and especially my ignorance.. .
Matteo
Guest
very interesting:finger:e diee con un sw open source tipo What?
maxopus
Guest
I think the problem you raised is that it is practically impossible to create a single working group.
there are macroscopic incompatibilities both for the different software used, and for the different technical cultures.
I would initially opt for the aggregation of similar skills, compatible both as work tools, technical knowledge, and possibly even in geographical areas.
in poor words, specialized groups, technically autonomous, but always linked to the initial project.
I do not see any other solutions at present.
I'd be happy if someone forgot me.
I suggest dbworks (dbclaim, ...) of mechworks that is multi cad and quite simple and functional.
But this seems to me that the problem of the pdm should be put forward, it seems in order to start "in small and in few" and simplifying to the maximum the modalities of collaboration and the initial investment.
You're right, I've probably slipped your speech too soon.actually maybe we are working too zoomed. . .
from a consortium that works on the distribution of objectives to which each group preformed for competence works independently, we have passed to methodologies of modeling/design to multiple hands.
the first imprinting I would swear that will work, on the second I have my doubts, and especially my ignorance.. .
It will be the case to talk about it when such need arises.