contract autodesk subscription

[michela_lineabeta]

Good morning to all, I am michela and I would need clarification if you can help me.
I use inventor 2011, in June our autodesk provider sent me all the updates and I downloaded inventor 2012 with which but I did not find myself well (I press that I use inventor from April and perhaps the fact of having just learned to use it limited me), however I decided that I would continue to use the 2011 version since it was great for the use I have to do.
now expires the subscription contract and my owner does not want to renew it, the supplier tells me that you can not use the previous version not updated if I do not have the active contract. so I can't use 2011 but I have to download and use 2012. What do you think? do you know how to advise me? thank you in advance and good day to all!

Bye!

 

[MBT]

I'll tell you...
I use 2009!
Is that enough for you?

 

[michela_lineabeta]

I'll tell you...
I use 2009!
Is that enough for you?

so the supplier tells stories............... ?

 

[cacciatorino]

now expires the subscription contract and my owner does not want to renew it, the supplier tells me that you can not use the previous version not updated if I do not have the active contract. so I can't use 2011 but I have to download and use 2012. What do you think? do you know how to advise me? thank you in advance and good day to all!

Bye!

Usually the purchased licenses are unlimited and permanent, so you can use whatever you want.

some software house require that the license of the old release is deleted when the license for a new version is required. example: if I went to the solidworks website and downloaded the license 2012, in theory I should cancel 2011 when the assistance expires. I mean,
with assistence: do what you want:
without assistance: You can only use one version, the last one you bought the assistance.
this in theory, because then everyone closes an eye, and also it can also be said that these are so-called "vessatorial claus", not valid for Italian legislation.

Anyway, I'd take it as a "pressure" of the seller to keep you in service. And I wouldn't give him too much weight.

 

[MBT]

if I don't remember badly, but I should inform myself, autodesk authorizes to keep active 3 releases before the last "maintained"
in any case, indicate what is the paragraph in the contract that requires you to move to the latest release and quickly uninstall the previous ones in case you are no longer in maintenance

 

[arzigogolo]

Good morning to all, I am michela and I would need clarification if you can help me.
I use inventor 2011, in June our autodesk provider sent me all the updates and I downloaded inventor 2012 with which but I did not find myself well (I press that I use inventor from April and perhaps the fact of having just learned to use it limited me), however I decided that I would continue to use the 2011 version since it was great for the use I have to do.
now expires the subscription contract and my owner does not want to renew it, the supplier tells me that you can not use the previous version not updated if I do not have the active contract. so I can't use 2011 but I have to download and use 2012. What do you think? do you know how to advise me? thank you in advance and good day to all!

Bye!

Bye.

I think it's a dance to make you pay for the subscription. in fact it is possible to continue using the previous version and that is in your case 2011, without subscribing any update of the subscription and without having the active contract. we would also miss that after one has spent some good money to buy a software it can not then continue to use it only because it expires the assistance.

Once you have purchased the full program you are fine, you are not obliged to subscribe, that is optional, it is a free choice of the company that can decide to activate it or not. the program, if it has a permanent license as I believe in your case, you can continue to use it indefinitely, subscriptions or not.

to your supplier not to tell dances!:smile: :finger:

 

[michela_lineabeta]

4. right to use previous versionsfor the duration of the autodesk subscription contract it is allowed to continue using the
previous versions of the software, according to the conditions described below.
• the previous version must be of the same product installed on the same computer
of the new version.
• the previous version cannot be transferred to another computer if it is not transferred
simultaneously the new version.
• there are two ways to get the previous versions.
- when they were previously purchased and were authorized to use.
- when you have the 2009 versions of your products, you can get up to three
previous versions for a number of products without having to purchase them.
consult the subscription center for an updated list of products suitable for use
previous versions.
• a single license cannot be exploited to use the new
version and the previous one.
• the maximum number of simultaneous users for a version cannot exceed the total number of users
licenses previously purchased and licensed by license for that same version
covered by subscriptions. this condition applies both to single (standalone) and
network licenses.

This is the paragraph I was sent by the supplier, in which (according to him9 is evidenced that I cannot continue to use 2011 without renewing subscrption contract.

 

[MBT]

4. right to use previous versionsfor the duration of the autodesk subscription contract it is allowed to continue using the
previous versions of the software, according to the conditions described below.
• the previous version must be of the same product installed on the same computer
of the new version.
• the previous version cannot be transferred to another computer if it is not transferred
simultaneously the new version.
• there are two ways to get the previous versions.
- when they were previously purchased and were authorized to use.
- when you have the 2009 versions of your products, you can get up to three
previous versions for a number of products without having to purchase them.
consult the subscription center for an updated list of products suitable for use
previous versions.
• a single license cannot be exploited to use the new
version and the previous one.
• the maximum number of simultaneous users for a version cannot exceed the total number of users
licenses previously purchased and licensed by license for that same version
covered by subscriptions. this condition applies both to single (standalone) and
network licenses.

This is the paragraph I was sent by the supplier, in which (according to him9 is evidenced that I cannot continue to use 2011 without renewing subscrption contract.

all that has reported is valid for subscribers who ask to use previous versions to that installed and in subscription
if you are not in subscription, if you do not require previous versions, if you do not alter the number of installations, all this decade
You didn't say "I'm not in subscription but I need the 2009 version, please install it!"

 

[michela_lineabeta]

Okay. I'll see if I can get our contract back and I'll "study it." In the meantime, I think you're all right. the supplier needs money! thank you for your help!

 

[pagnotz]

if you install 2011 and continue to use it after the subscription expires, it will continue to work regularly and no one will notice that you are doing it.
what might happen is that if you need to reinstall the program for some reason (type after computer formatting), you may no longer be able to activate it because connecting with autodesk servers would prove that you would have a license only for the latest version purchased, i.e. 2012.

 

[Tristan]

Hi, Michael, it's exactly what pagnotz says. you can continue to use the 2011 release as you like*; the only loser is that if and when you change autodesk pcs will not make you reactivate 2011 and then you will be forced to switch to 2012. Why not start immediately? you say that you found yourself wrong, but it is not that it has changed so radically, indeed...if I can, however, I recommend you not to let the sub decay, unless you have decided to switch to other software.

*edit: theoretically; if there were any financial control, I don't make sure that this is legal. the "what you want" is related to the fact that no one can control, if not visiting the studio (because you should have installed 2012 on the same machine)

 

[stefanobruno]

what might happen is that if for some reason you need to reinstall the program

I have now finished asking for assistance: the activation of the last rel. in subscription cancels the others in case of withdrawal from the sub.

of the series : try the rel. for 30 days and do not authorize it if you do not like it.
attention that new files do not read with the old rel.

Also to me rel. 2012 does not like and not use, especially for the ribbon interface.

Bye.

 

[GiGa]

if 2012 has been activated, I think you have to continue using that (and only that) if you are no longer under subscriptions. .
otherwise in sub, as already mentioned, you can also use the last three releases before the last release, even if you do not own (e.g. if you started with the sub with 2011, you can also use 2009 and 2010).

in any case, this from the inventor's room:

. if autodesk or a retailer provides the licensee an update of other licensed materials previously licensed to the licensee, the licensed materials previously licensed to the licensee, and all other autodesk materials related to them, will be considered as “previous versions” from that moment on.. Except as provided for in Article 1.2.2 (except for subscription licensees), licensed license and other rights relating to any previous version will be extinguished after one hundred and twenty (120) days after installation of the update. within this period of one hundred and twenty (120) days(a) the licensee must cease any use of all previous versions and uninstall all copies of the previous versions, and (b) at the expiry of that period, the previous versions will not constitute more licensed materials, but will instead be considered excluded materials and the licensee will no longer have a licence title for those previous versions. upon request of autodesk, the licensee agrees to destroy or return to autodesk or to the dealer from which they have been purchased all copies of the previous versions. autodesk reserves the right to request the licensee to provide satisfactory proof that all copies of all previous versions have been uninstalled and, if required by autodesk, destroyed or returned to autodesk or to the dealer from which they had been purchased.

then, you have to evaluate what it means "supplies to the licensee"... i.e. if simply download from the sub site or i.e. activation (very more likely). . .
Anyway, I think it's pretty clear. . .

 

[Tristan]

*edit: theoretically; if there were any financial control, I don't make sure that this is legal. the "what you want" is related to the fact that no one can control, if not visiting the studio (because you should have installed 2012 on the same machine)

in any case, this from the inventor's room:

Like I didn't say, that was exactly what I was referring to as "legal." I never read that part of the room. Thanks, giga!

Also to me rel. 2012 does not like and not use, especially for the ribbon interface.

but sorry, the ribbon is also in 2011...

 

[pompeo79]

clarify the difference in "please" between 2012 and 2011? They're identical.

 

[stefanobruno]

but sorry, the ribbon is also in 2011...

Yes, but you can return to the classic interface.
with 2012 you only keep the ribbon.
Sooner or later, it touches me, but for the moment, I scan it.

Bye.