conversion from if to catia

[bladina]

hello to all, a customer asks me to give him the job (signs 2d and 3d) in catia format but he fears that the conversion from if you provoke him of the losses of property or other (I have not understood what) for which it is reluctant to entrust me the job. Do you have experiences about it? I noticed that if you also have the rescue function directly in the casket even if the functionality from me is not installed because it requires additional license. Is it the case of buying it to solve?

Thank you.

 

[cacciatorino]

hello to all, a customer asks me to give him the job (signs 2d and 3d) in catia format but he fears that the conversion from if you provoke him of the losses of property or other (I have not understood what) for which it is reluctant to entrust me the job. Do you have experiences about it? I noticed that if you also have the rescue function directly in the casket even if the functionality from me is not installed because it requires additional license. Is it the case of buying it to solve?

Thank you.

I don't think a converter like that can do what your client needs. Try asking your assistance to convert a test file, so you can test it.

given my long tertiary experience anyway, I feel like I'm telling you that if your client needs complete files, the only one is that you use catia too.

 

[bladina]

say that even converting I would have a 3d file which then will have to be further elaborated with catia to provide also the 2d always in catia format.
Perhaps converting it into step then withdrawing it from cayenne I could avoid designing in 3d on the latter and perhaps make only the puts on the table to someone who works in cayenne? or I can always lose those properties I don't know!

 

[cacciatorino]

say that even converting I would have a 3d file which then will have to be further elaborated with catia to provide also the 2d always in catia format.
Perhaps converting it into step then withdrawing it from cayenne I could avoid designing in 3d on the latter and perhaps make only the puts on the table to someone who works in cayenne? or I can always lose those properties I don't know!

Then:
conversion usually carries only the dark and raw geometry, so you definitely lose:

1) metadata or "properties", i.e. codes, material indication, thermal and surface treatments, etc etc.
2) joint constraints
3) sampling
4) the model-table association
5) the weight and density of each solid
6) sometimes colors
7) the working tree of the par

Maybe the direct converter if-->catia does miracles, I can't say it.

value you with your customer: If it's the first job to convince him to accept neutral files. If then the collaboration will be fruitful from both sides you will think to buy casket.

 

[bladina]

thanks to the advice you were extremely clear.

greetings

 

[delki]

the license cost for the catia converter is approximately equal to the cost of the solid edge license, this for each version of the catia converter, then for v4 and v5.

 

[marcof]

the license cost for the catia converter is approximately equal to the cost of the solid edge license, this for each version of the catia converter, then for v4 and v5.

Kill... for that price should save features, constraints and everything.

 

[delki]

Kill... for that price should save features, constraints and everything.

is not a problem of what it does, but of royalties

 

[cacciatorino]

is not a problem of what it does, but of royalties

But what can he do? Do you have an advertising paper?

 

[ceschi1959]

catia converter only exports neutral files. does not export the 2d. from what I know to import neutral files like step or iges, catia must have a license on purpose. so your client is downloading you costs that would compete more to him than to you.

 

[cacciatorino]

catia converter only exports neutral files. does not export the 2d. from what I know to import neutral files like step or iges, catia must have a license on purpose. so your client is downloading you costs that would compete more to him than to you.

Actually, from what is my experience, the compatibility problem is moving more towards the management of anagram info than pure geometry.

the reason is that by now all companies have a minimum structure of pdm systems, which are beautiful and work very well, but unfortunately they have the limit to manage only the files from the system on which they were thought. I always hear more and more that if I want to work as a third party, I have to have the same cad and the same pdm as the customer, otherwise I'll see you and thank you.

the speech of the features on the parts or of the bonds of assemblies is heard, but to a very lower extent, at least for me that I work on plants to commit for which often the recovery of the existing is limited.

 

[ceschi1959]

Actually, from what is my experience, the compatibility problem is moving more towards the management of anagram info than pure geometry.

the reason is that by now all companies have a minimum structure of pdm systems, which are beautiful and work very well, but unfortunately they have the limit to manage only the files from the system on which they were thought. I always hear more and more that if I want to work as a third party, I have to have the same cad and the same pdm as the customer, otherwise I'll see you and thank you.

the speech of the features on the parts or of the bonds of assemblies is heard, but to a very lower extent, at least for me that I work on plants to commit for which often the recovery of the existing is limited.

I worked with many companies with the pdm (tc of siemens) and in no way could I work remotely with the pdm. I always gave native files or not that then in three seconds they were loaded into the pdm. for example in tc if you have nx maybe you go better but 'middle' any file type with stunning efficiency.

 

[cacciatorino]

I worked with many companies with the pdm (tc of siemens) and in no way could I work remotely with the pdm. I always gave native files or not that then in three seconds they were loaded into the pdm. for example in tc if you have nx maybe you go better but 'middle' any file type with stunning efficiency.

but how did you recover an existing code, question an analogue of a part similar to what you had to do, reuse an already encoded commercial, take an existing table and associate it with the new similar design? Did you do everything yourself every time?

 

[ceschi1959]

but how did you recover an existing code, question an analogue of a part similar to what you had to do, reuse an already encoded commercial, take an existing table and associate it with the new similar design? Did you do everything yourself every time?

I never needed to do these things outside the company, even because the companies I worked with never allowed me to connect to their network from outside. when there was to do this I was in the company with my or their program but from business computer. Do you have access to the database of companies you work for from the outside? Are you networked with them?

 

[cacciatorino]

Do you have access to the database of companies you work for from the outside? Are you networked with them?

In a couple of cases, but they are about ten years of collaboration that they trust and accept risk, in the face of the advantage of increased productivity. clearly it is connections in vpn etc etc etc. etc.