doubt program!

[miks]

Bye to all,
as I wrote in the presentation, I work in a mechanical company that designs and builds machines for the food industry.
Currently we are using autocad lt; our machines are not particularly complex and we produce several artifacts of carpentry (type conveyor belts with simple dosing stations).
we have an old solidworks license (2008) that we have never used for lack of time of our designer who is always taken.
from about a month I have been engaged in learning (with some difficulties having an economic training...) of the program that literally enthralled me.
in putting to budget for 2015 the passage from 2 to 3 d I made an economic benchmark between solidworks and solidegede and here a huge doubt arises: thanks to a particular commercial aggressiveness of the solidedge dealer, in the endowment of the licenses I need (3) and projecting the maintenance costs for a three-year period, solidedge costs me half of solidworks (despite the license already in my possession).
are therefore asking you, assuming that solidworks, in its basic version, is enough and advances for our needs, solidedge is to be considered comparable?
consider that we would serve:
. draw the parts
. create axioms
. put everything in the table efficiently!

we do not need simulations and other more advanced functions!!! (we do everything with the 2d,,,,)

thanks in advance

 

[gerod]

if parts from scratch are substantially similar.
we both use and differ for some peculiarities but philosophy is similar.

 

[Tequila]

with the basic version of both cads do everything you need. Drawing parts and creating its assemblies are only one of the many basic characteristics of cad, both midrange as solid edge, solidworks, inventor etc. of both tops such as nx, catia, creo.

the 2 cad cited (solid edge and solidworks) are comparable, so either with one or with the other the result will be obtainable in entering me the cases.
where it remains that to assess the economic aspect, which leans towards solid edge.

Hi.

 

[Onda]

From my point of view it is also worth considering the possibility to exit the maintenance contract and then return.
with solidworks this is possible, paying a fee of 500 euros per license, and with solidedge?
basic you do not need to update every year, but you can do one you and two no, with a saving not to laugh. It is not that versions from one year to another are updated so much! !
and then evaluate if you always hold three positions, or maybe you'll have two floating licenses?
(floating licenses are managed by a server and the program can be opened on any machine on the network) potentially you can install the program on 4 -5 machines and then keep it open simultaneously depending on the number of licenses you have. the floating solidworks server seems to me that costs around 2000 euros, but from a lot of flexibility.
You can also purchase a basic license and a premium (or a professional) and then open the features you need when you need them.

the initial purchase price is not the only parameter for the choice.

 

[miks]

From my point of view it is also worth considering the possibility to exit the maintenance contract and then return.
with solidworks this is possible, paying a fee of 500 euros per license, and with solidedge?
basic you do not need to update every year, but you can do one you and two no, with a saving not to laugh. It is not that versions from one year to another are updated so much! !
and then evaluate if you always hold three positions, or maybe you'll have two floating licenses?
(floating licenses are managed by a server and the program can be opened on any machine on the network) potentially you can install the program on 4 -5 machines and then keep it open simultaneously depending on the number of licenses you have. the floating solidworks server seems to me that costs around 2000 euros, but from a lot of flexibility.
You can also purchase a basic license and a premium (or a professional) and then open the features you need when you need them.

the initial purchase price is not the only parameter for the choice.

Without a doubt the price is not the only parameter, I must inform myself about the fee of "reentro in solidedge" because frankly, if today I have 3 Swa licenses of 2008 the lands as they are, given our needs. .
for floating, I had already thought about it (we will have 3 posts using 2 licenses and 1 fixed): the Swahili license manager costs 2500€ while the license if found floating costs 100€ compared to normal. the problem is that 50% savings in three years for 3 licenses are so much money...

 

[Onda]

excuse but solidworks dealer does not make any discount?
Moreover, if you return to maintenance with 2008 you can make it floating. in practice you could buy a license, a floating module and return to maintenance. and on everything ask at least a little discount, perhaps showing him the solid edge quote.
It seems strange to me that one makes a policy of aggressive discounts and the other present list costs without applying anything! !

 

[miks]

excuse but solidworks dealer does not make any discount?
Moreover, if you return to maintenance with 2008 you can make it floating. in practice you could buy a license, a floating module and return to maintenance. and on everything ask at least a little discount, perhaps showing him the solid edge quote.
It seems strange to me that one makes a policy of aggressive discounts and the other present list costs without applying anything! !

just sent mail in that sense.... let's see!

 

[Onda]

Let us know. if you give us some price, if possible, it is useful to have comparisons. .
Thank you.

 

[gil]

solidworks, solidedge, inventor are analogue, each with merits and defects.
leaving aside arguments about what is the best, for the use you described all go well.
made make 3 quotes with three demonstrations and evaluate you.

 

[c'erounavolta]

I think it's less expensive.

 

[gil]

or there is also ptc creo or topsolid

 

[miks]

the solidworks dealer answered me a little "small" but is still beginning to treat. . .

but do you think there is any chance that siemens abandons the solidedge project?

 

[Onda]

I'm telling you, I'm sorry. and make stories to reunite her.
Actually, you can count on how much I wrote you.
you can return the old license to maintenance, flank it with a new one and make it floating.
and on all a little discount you have to tear it. otherwise tell him that you change dealer. No one forces you to provide you with one or another.

 

[Be_on_edge]

the solidworks dealer answered me a little "small" but is still beginning to treat. . .

but do you think there is any chance that siemens abandons the solidedge project?

the solid edge project is alive more than ever and has accelerated in recent years especially since they introduced st versions.
and apart from bar speeches, the "sincrona" mode is available only on solid edge and nx.

the floating license for solid edge, always that you need, costs a few hundred more euros.

if you then need some extra licenses you can rent even for a month directly online.

Hi.