frame generator does not update profiles

[GianniM]

This would be to tear all the hair, but so much!
I created a frame through sketch (motor frames), then I put the profiles in axiemi welded through the command "demote".
At first everything worked well, but now, detailing the project more and more, if I make a sketch change the profiles do not update anymore!
good luck: mad: why now how do I update everything!

I think it's my turn to do it again. Of course it is a good limit if inventor is jammed in these aspects

 

[Tarkus]

This would be to tear all the hair, but so much!
I created a frame through sketch (motor frames), then I put the profiles in axiemi welded through the command "demote".
At first everything worked well, but now, detailing the project more and more, if I make a sketch change the profiles do not update anymore!
good luck: mad: why now how do I update everything!

I think it's my turn to do it again. Of course it is a good limit if inventor is jammed in these aspects

Don't worry, he does.
Unfortunately, it's a flaw I've found from at least 3 releases.
But it almost always works together, putting the activity to the sketch and resurrecting.
Maybe after some other changes it re-locks, then it takes off the adactivity.
seems like he needs a "scrolled" every now and then.:biggrin:

 

[GianniM]

at the end it is updated, with this simple and logical procedure
open randomly, pressed on “upstream”, closed the program.
restarted the pc
open inventor, open random assemblies, pressed on “upstream”, closed the program.
restarted the pc
open inventor, open random assemblies, pressed on “upstream”and for I do not know what reason, in the end it has updated.

 

[Ilario]

I say mine, even if probably unpopular, since it is not the first time I feel about this and that you use it in different:
In my opinion, even if similar, each frame corresponds its sketch and its folder with its own profiles in its frame generator set. I would never remove the profiles from the inside with the command "promote" and "low level".

In fact, I always thought that if it could also work at times, then I would have found myself having such problems.
It seems to do "before", but then in the end it doesn't seem so functional the imho thing.

 

[Catafratto]

Ilario, I think of it as you and never did promotions or lowerings of level: However, on the contrary, this has not saved me from the problems of giannim :wink:

 

[Ilario]

never happened that he didn't update my profiles after a change to the skeleton.
Other types of problems, such as custom iproperties that do not update or lose parameters yes, but update after changes ever.

 

[Catafratto]

It only happened a couple of times, and anyway it was enough to close the assembling and then reopen it: Anyway the problem was... we will see with 2015

 

[GianniM]

Well, I'd gladly do without those commands. but if I have to put a welded, welded together, which I want to put into the table separately from the rest, in which other way can I do?

 

[Ilario]

- main unit (coded)
-----|-> welded together (coded, which will be your reference to be untied as welded)
-----------|-> scheletro.ipt (different structure components "hidden", will be your "pilot" to edit)
-----------|-> together generated by the chassis generator (default is already a hidden axieme so you don't have to promote anything
-----------|-> other pieces if necessary to bind to the frame

in the table put the welded set and the ball works normally.

 

[Catafratto]

That's another speech: You have to start with already in the head as you will go to divide the asses. the sketch, put inside a part that will make from "skeleton", can still be inserted in more assemblies and drive so more than a frame; and at each table can correspond a different set. if you want to put on the table a particular of a set remember that you can also create visual configurations and "hide" what you do not want to see on the table.
I hope I've been clear. . .

Here, I've overlaid myself to the Ilario: his explanation is clearer:redface:

 

[Tarkus]

remains the fact that to someone (including me) does not always update and to someone never happens.
This diversity is strange.

 

[GianniM]

- main unit (coded)
-----|-> welded together (coded, which will be your reference to be untied as welded)
-----------|-> scheletro.ipt (different structure components "hidden", will be your "pilot" to edit)
-----------|-> together generated by the chassis generator (default is already a hidden axieme so you don't have to promote anything
-----------|-> other pieces if necessary to bind to the frame

in the table put the welded set and the ball works normally.

I don't understand this explanation. It seems to me that every weld has its skeleton (steel frame), in this way then I have to use the constraints on the parts to put together the welds. Do I understand?

I would like to do the opposite. the frame contains everything. then divide it inside in welded so avoid any problems of binding that can be verified strongly changing the frame.

 

[Ilario]

remains the fact that to someone (including me) does not always update and to someone never happens.
This diversity is strange.

It is also the fact that those who have more often the problem are those who "promote" and "lower level".

I don't understand this explanation. It seems to me that every weld has its skeleton (steel frame), in this way then I have to use the constraints on the parts to put together the welds. Do I understand?

I would like to do the opposite. the frame contains everything. then divide it inside in welded so avoid any problems of binding that can be verified strongly changing the frame.

you can work as you like, but if you work differently than how the module was conceived, then problems can arise.
In my opinion if you change "strongly" the frame means that you are making another design, it also happens without the chassis generator that you have to "trip" to put things back in place like with any other together.
the constraints, if put correctly and intelligently (I'm not saying that you're not, it's just an adjective) it takes a little time, but they settle down, like with any other together.
If it's binding issues to scare you, I'd be more scared if I had to restart the pc 2 times to fix a profile update.

It is understood that I do not want to teach you to work; You have exposed a problem and I have proposed a solution that has never given me problems, and multi-piece frames I make a lot of it, but this means that maybe you should review your method. It is not the absolute truth that I propose to you, but then you decide what way to go and what is the most painless.

 

[Tarkus]

really use very little to promote or lower level in general, never made on a frame fg.
and sometimes it doesn't update to simple change of length of a sketch line...that's why I can't explain why to someone yes and to someone no. maybe it's in the inventor's dna .........however, I repeat, going to "stuzzicare" the sketch's adactivity, my inventor seems to wake up and manage to update.