tips macbook

[Ugo Persiano]

Hello everyone,
I'm a novice, I don't know if I did well to post here and even if I could ask myself this kind of question..(in all ways, please answer me something) :smile:
in a few months I will enter mechanical engineering to firenze and for this reason I wanted some trouble on the software that I will have to use and on the relative skills that my next macbook pro that I intend to buy must have. (especially all the above programs I have seen citing names exist for mac? and how much ram I need to work quietly without problems and without repentance to have bought a mac that does not allow me to work properly? )
Sorry again if the question is inopportune but after finding a forum so well updated about things I have to start getting familiar with I couldn't help but ask for some info...thanks thanks and thanks:wink:

 

[marcof]

in a few months I will enter mechanical engineering to firenze and for this reason I wanted some trouble on the software that I will have to use and on the relative skills that my next macbook pro that I intend to buy must have.

Forget the mac.
all the main applications dedicated to mechanics (cad, fem, cfd etc.) are written for windows. I do not see why to complicate life with windows virtualizations, dual boot and various fines.
past the first moment of discouragement to not have the morsicata apple and a fantastic aluminium case milled from the full :smile:you will forget the know to focus on the design, and at that point you should also forget the application and think only about the object you are thinking.
the rest I have "son all puppets"

 

[Ugo Persiano]

Forget the mac.
all the main applications dedicated to mechanics (cad, fem, cfd etc.) are written for windows. I do not see why to complicate life with windows virtualizations, dual boot and various fines.
past the first moment of discouragement to not have the morsicata apple and a fantastic aluminium case milled from the full :smile:you will forget the know to focus on the design, and at that point you should also forget the application and think only about the object you are thinking.
the rest I have "son all puppets"

ahahahhahhh thank you for the colorful description, the problem is that that the first moment of confusion I can not remove it so... on the other hand I think the problem is the same... what must have a good pc/mac to survive these programs? I speak of ram ssd and cpu

 

[enri]

Hello everyone,
I don't know if I did well to post here. .

no you didn't do well to post here on this forum.. :redface:
"let me lose the mac..." right...:biggrin:

However you have two possibilities, given your will to stay on mac, for your luck:
1-install only native sw on mac, there are and how, but you must by force of things make a selection, because, as it says rotten, there are not just the main applications, but just search, there are various fems and nx, so much to make an exemp, but you have to see it alone, and use only those.
if in a group work you happen to interact with your companions on sw, it is very likely that they will not use the same yours (but you can prey them for the c.. for their plastic dish with on that kind of bowl as s.o ..:biggrin
2-as above, even for satisfaction, but in addition you put a copy of windows to use both with bootcamp, restarting, and with parallels, in virtualization, but only for emergencies, if you use only windows, the expense is not worth, so much it is worth putting on a good notebook linux, of sw for engineering there are even more.
for this type of work the only macbook pro you can take is the retina display with the dscreta video card, as well as the integral, is on 2600 euros, you understand why it has to be worth it? ;

 

[rinato]

hi, to logic rigor, if the laptop you want to make it last throughout the course, you should take it as big as possible (of ram and cpu, first of all), especially to virtualize. If you realize you're always working with the dual-boot, you might risk groaning on the ram, and there counts all the budget.
because a macbook is always a computer and, even if stiloso, with the years old. and are famous for being unconfigurable.
rather controls what edition of win you will install, because I read that in dualboot is no longer supported view (or seven, but I can't find the news, sorry). and consequently what programs you can/you will need to install.
remains to define the size of the monitor, and there depends on how you are accustomed, a 13" is very portable, a 15" is already more "workable", a 17" would be to scream, but do not make them anymore...
I would stay on nb windows, maybe those with touch, which you probably can also take notes directly on the monitor etc. But I don't want to study, but I have a domestic imac, and sometimes it's a puzzle...
good luck regardless of the s.o.,
reborn

p.s. but did you already use a mac or would it be an absolute novelty?
p.s.s. there are macuser forums with sections dedicated to charts etc., try to sew there too; they will surely remove you some hw doubts.

 

[enri]

the only two are the vertce retina, the macpro, and the imac, those with a graphics card from the gt750 up.

 

[Ugo Persiano]

p.s. but did you already use a mac or would it be an absolute novelty?
p.s.s. there are macuser forums with sections dedicated to charts etc., try to sew there too; they will surely remove you some hw doubts.[/QUOTE]then no is the first time I would use a mac. I describe the model I wanted to buy so you let me know where it can be lacking.
macbook pro 15" 8gb of ram cpu intel quadcore 2,0ghz, graphics intel iris pro 256gb of ssd.
My doubts are on the ram (it is little??) then if you have any other doubts or comments to make you are free the alternative would be a 13" with 16gb of ram but cpu dualcore.. what it is worth.
the doubts for ram are always related to the use of those softaware and bootcamp.. thank you again

 

[marcof]

Then no is the first time I would use a mac.

Oh, I get it. you are in fregul, convinced that with the morsicata apple you will reduce the "time to market" and discuss the degree one year before:biggrin:

jokes aside, wanting to buy a mac to use to make us run programs that are basically all only for windows is like making wedding with dry figs.
only because of the fact that you do not have certified video cards for the main cad3d and risk finding artifacts during the visualization of the models or the masses in the table would deporate to unfavor of the morsicata apple.
then you do, that at the paturnie you do not command, and at the limit faced with problems of type graphic or incompatibility with certain software that you would need you will console you lacking the fantastic aluminum case of the laptop and you will look with sufficiency and compatimento your colleagues study that, having no excuses like you will be forced to use their pc to make mdellazione3d fem, cae, cfd etc:redface:

 

[marcof]

2-as above, even for satisfaction, but also put a copy of windows to use both with bootcamp, rebooting, and with parallels, in virtualization, but only for emergencies

ah, yes, these are really satisfactions!! :tongue:

if you only use windows, the expense is not worth,

one studying mechanical engineering what the hell do you think will have to use, adobe after effect, photoshop, premier...? I say he will use the software he needs and that cruel destiny wants them to be written for windows.

so much it is worth putting on a good notebook linux, of sw for engineering there are even more.

Well, then tell him you love him from the bottom of your heart!

for this type of work the only macbook pro you can take is the retina display with the dscreta video card, as well as the integral, is on 2600 euros, you understand why it has to be worth it? ;

In fact, it is absolutely not worth it. those of the mac for mechanical engineers are all itching that pass with a good ointment to dermatological use from 10€

 

[Ugo Persiano]

then what pc I recommend able to have same specifications, or better the same mac strengths as ssd and cpu quadcore and ram and graphics requirements to work with those programs?

 

[enri]

It is not that you have to use the usual programs, I repeat of fem there are three or four, including tecplot and cosmol, then there is nx, autocad, and various solid modelers/nurbs, it is not true that you have to use only win, but I said that if you have to use it so it is not worth the penalty.
However on pc you have to take at least one i7 quadcore with ht, and you can have a solid state disk, (ssd), you will have a much faster system. the graphics card is a dilemma, you should know in advance what sw you will use most frequently, because there is the possibility of having to take a picture, that on the notebooks costs a lot, otherwise at least from a nvidia gt650/750 up, and eqivalent radeon, less let it lose. on mac with the native sw there is no need for the picture, the native drivers open gl on os x go great on the desktop. I repeat you leave the irispro, on mac you have three possibilities, the retina with the gt750, a macpro, or the imac with the gtx.
It is important to know that sw use in your faculty, if there is a course, that I know, of solidworks that all follow and you will have to use it for the exam, you will really have to use windows, (and unfortunately I have to give reason to marco, that is the main reason for my intervention :wink: :wink

ps- right now, after installing win 7 pros from a week, I have to reformat, because the wonderful sp1 of the best win always does not want to know how to configure, and after doing everything, between incazz..re various, and mortal jumps computer, that will give me the degree in computer science shortly, with solutions that in some case have brought other problems... There is nothing that has been resolved, and with me hundreds of other users with the same problem, just do a research, so when I insist on this aspect, I know what I'm talking about. ;

 

[Ugo Persiano]

It is not that you have to use the usual programs, I repeat of fem there are three or four, including tecplot and cosmol, then there is nx, autocad, and various solid modelers/nurbs, it is not true that you have to use only win, but I said that if you have to use it so it is not worth the penalty.
However on pc you have to take at least one i7 quadcore with ht, and you can have a solid state disk, (ssd), you will have a much faster system. the graphics card is a dilemma, you should know in advance what sw you will use most frequently, because there is the possibility of having to take a picture, that on the notebooks costs a lot, otherwise at least from a nvidia gt650/750 up, and eqivalent radeon, less let it lose. on mac with the native sw there is no need for the picture, the native drivers open gl on os x go great on the desktop. I repeat you leave the irispro, on mac you have three possibilities, the retina with the gt750, a macpro, or the imac with the gtx.
It is important to know that sw use in your faculty, if there is a course, that I know, of solidworks that all follow and you will have to use it for the exam, you will really have to use windows, (and unfortunately I have to give reason to marco, that is the main reason for my intervention :wink: :wink

ps- right now, after installing win 7 pros from a week, I have to reformat, because the wonderful sp1 of the best win always does not want to know how to configure, and after doing everything, between incazz..re various, and mortal jumps computer, that will give me the degree in computer science shortly, with solutions that in some case have brought other problems... There is nothing that has been resolved, and with me hundreds of other users with the same problem, just do a research, so when I insist on this aspect, I know what I'm talking about. ;

I really thank you and Mark for the strong data advice. I don't want to ruin my life with a mac that only complicates my life. I hope rather to know as soon as possible what software they use so as to make me an idea of what I need! Thanks :wink:

 

[enri]

Also because inside mechanics you can do so many different things, it is not said that you have to use a mcad, a friend of mine did the thesis on stock availability with exel.

 

[Moskiz]

I send the post because I wanted to submit a video that I produced where you see solid edge and solidworks working on a vm parallels on board an imac 5k, with respect to the performance of solidworks are very exciting (with a patch released by parallels you enable the hw opengl acceleration in the vm ) , while regarding solid edge performance do not allow to work with assemblies of a few hundred pieces. the same parasolid assembly of 300 parts was manipulated with both cad.
https://youtu.be/bdhqgpqcdeq

 

[pinkisback]

cabbage as pedal

 

[Moskiz]

pedal very well, I also tried a set with 1700 single parts and has no decrease in performance