free microstation applications

[atrebbi]

sure to do what you like, I will give you links to download two free microstation applications (supported versions: xm and v8i)

cartographic application compatible with files rili2000 (old and new) :
== sync, corrected by elderman == https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/4sxz6xo5vtqhpqapplication for furniture (floor tiles, but not only)
(7.5 mb bytes) => https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/4sdcgoyku9tdgbgive me some impressions (and above all send me bug reports, suggestions); if you are interested in a customized application for microstations, ask also (there is also a small sdk provided on request to develop with the framework used in these two applications, but still they are widely customizable through xml files configuration, as explained in the attached documentation)

 

[atrebbi]

I changed the download links (these are permanent, the above will not be valid soon) :

reliview:http://alessandrotrebbi.com/yourls/riliview

tilemaker :http://alessandrotrebbi.com/yourls/tilemaker

 

[anakin87]

Do you use rili2000?

 

[atrebbi]

Do you use rili2000?

not exactly, I provide advice to companies that use it (of various types, but mainly as mdl software developer for microstation)

Do you use it?

 

[anakin87]

Yes, I use it every day. work for snam gas network.

 

[atrebbi]

Yes, I use it every day. work for snam gas network.

Have you tried the application riliview? It's a little simple (limited to visualization, quality controls, prints) but I've actually done even more sophisticated things (yes, used in some major engineering studies for major foreign projects).
as explained in the readme.txt file included in the package, modifying a configuration file you rili2000 can also add the menu' and reliview commands directly in rili2000 and use them together (if then "games" a little with xml configuration files you will see how easy it is to add new functions, edit forms, customize prints, etc.etc.)

 

[anakin87]

I'm pretty new in the industry. I use rili2000 and relicont for the design of snam methanols. lately I am also using pims (of praoil). But I have a lot of problems. I never completed a design without encountering mistakes. I spend more time on the phone with the gesp than with my girlfriend

 

[anakin87]

Have you tried the application riliview? It's a little simple (limited to visualization, quality controls, prints) but I've actually done even more sophisticated things (yes, used in some major engineering studies for major foreign projects).
as explained in the readme.txt file included in the package, modifying a configuration file you rili2000 can also add the menu' and reliview commands directly in rili2000 and use them together (if then "games" a little with xml configuration files you will see how easy it is to add new functions, edit forms, customize prints, etc.etc.)

never tried riliview. What can help me?

 

[atrebbi]

never tried riliview. What can help me?

In my initial projects it was an attempt to rewrite old eni applications (which, as you have also verified, often have big problems that make them merely unusable), so that:
- it was easy to install (as it goes into the hands of external companies)
- works on multiple versions (all) of microstations and windows
- easy to extend and change (without needing to write code, in most cases, but still with a sdk provided very simple to use that did not require in-depth knowledge of mdl )

As my attempts to contact Srg to propose it have not gone well, the project has been redirected to a software oriented to the design firms for foreign projects (they use three large firms, as far as I know; it is not really reliview , they are from time to time customized specific packages )

However the reliview package is downloadable and usable freely, you can try it if you want (it can be useful to you, for example, to quickly and without so much trouble verify the export files generated by the companies, to produce striped and stralci in style v8 (I mean, according to bentley guidelines for the production of prints ), and if you want to lose some time to look and change the configuration files and to smanettare

 

[MarcoBi]

sure to do what you like, I will give you links to download two free microstation applications (supported versions: xm and v8i)

cartographic application compatible with files rili2000 (old and new) :
== sync, corrected by elderman == https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/4sxz6xo5vtqhpqapplication for furniture (floor tiles, but not only)
(7.5 mb bytes) => https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/4sdcgoyku9tdgbgive me some impressions (and above all send me bug reports, suggestions); if you are interested in a customized application for microstations, ask also (there is also a small sdk provided on request to develop with the framework used in these two applications, but still they are widely customizable through xml files configuration, as explained in the attached documentation)

Can you give me a detailed description of the useful rili2000?
I have not downloaded (yet) the application but I would like to understand its practical usefulness.
Thank you.

 

[atrebbi]

Can you give me a detailed description of the useful rili2000?
I have not downloaded (yet) the application but I would like to understand its practical usefulness.
Thank you.

here are other info:http://www.3bsoft.com/it/riliutil.htmlAs mentioned, the downloadable utility is a viewer; take a reli2000 export file, import it, then open the imported system and you can:

- verify the graphs (quality control),
- do crawl / straw
- correct (if necessary ) with the standard microstation commands (in any case there are security mechanisms for which you cannot delete data linked to databases, for example, the integrity of files is preserved; the editing commands for a month work and you can have fun trying them too, unless the term requires a license, but everything else will work anyway)

and at the end carry back;

you can also do it on a computer (current standard ) with 64-bit windows and v8i microstations (the latest version ), which is not small (but also on srg standard pcs and old microstation versions from v8.5)


You can also have fun extending the reliview capabilities and doing the things you can't do with rili2000; personally, it's very useful as it is, but I'm sure you'll find it even more useful when you find out how easy it is to make him do what you need.

then anyway, in just 10 minutes between downloading, installing and trying, you can remove any other doubt

 

[atrebbi]

io mi occupo di sviluppo software cad (il cross, ad esempio, l'avevo scritto inizialmente io, anche se poi altri ci hanno messo le mani, ed anche su altri programmi che hai citato un po' ci ho lavorato).
c'e' una societa' di recruiting che cerca profili tipo il tuo:
http://www.peopledesign.it
contatti veri non ne ho, anzi ne cercavo io per piazzare il software che stavo sviluppando ( http://www.3bsoft.com/it/prodotti/riliutil.html ), anche perche' mi pare che snam rete gas si sta muovendo proprio per riscrivere il rili2000 e le altre applicazioni ma rivolgendosi ad altri

 

[zizou94]

I long ago, before April until I worked and felt on the phone with the employees xxxxxx and xxxxxx, I had made a file with all the various problematic rili 2000 regarding the old 2000. Now I cover and take off, every now and then they sent us new updates but almost all the problems I wrote you remained, one of all the important + thing, was that lacked the command to make the variants after you had pinched and mechanized the planimetry, second head they had to erase all the track and therefore all the mechanization maybe for two heads moved 5 m....
error list
rili 2000 plant:
• does not work the command select item
• does not operate the Level Manager command
• does not work the command displays level
• on plant-punti_caratteristici-cip reference no longer the value of the quota
• always on plant-components_drenanti-sphyato after that from the initial and final point of the vent inserts a very large circle and also in the plotting misses the positions of the vent.
• lacks control over 2000 various project- lines and texts
• missing undo and redo commands (nothing and forward)
• topographic survey –acquire-planning integration: roads and waters remain
• missing the view attributes command
• after running the command of the piquetting on the project track on the quality control system verification by error on the spikes because it does not find the point
• putting the written system on quality control, verifying error charts because the writings instead of having white color have color per level
• putting existing methanols on various lines srg in operation, draws a blue line and also this from an error in quality control, just change the color white and not from error
• turning the dpl of a mechanized mechanized mechanized mechanized mechanized mechanized put the vents in the dsq in incorrect points precisely not aligned as by mechanization and in some cases also electric protections

Catalan sheets:
• lacks on land roads and waters so you can not enter the water and roads
• quality control of cathastral polygons and verification of error graphs on water and roads
• quality control centralized polygons catastali generates polygons retinate full on level 46 (just or wrong the retinati polygons are all on level 46, it changes only color, and if you find some small polygon without centeroid is difficult to spot) and you do not see well the errors...

p.s. some of these listed errors have been resolved with new updates
cmq I like my colleagues are here one thing, but why didn't they remake the 2000 riles?? ? I have understood all these problems with the rili have happened because those who did the rili are not the same people who made the package with 2000, cross and thesheet.....I on my behalf can say that it was better 2000, the only good thing about the rili that opens the files with the v8 instead of the 2000 you have to open them with the v7 because if you open them with the 8 we say the go....

 

[atrebbi]

you have written so much in one message
I start from the last question, on why eni made rili2000 to different people etc. there would be a lot to say about the thing, but the essential is that they made a tender, and they chose the winners (which then are those that guaranteed lower costs, ultimately, on the card in any case since the price was relative to the man group and therefore employing non competent people simply increased the number of days man).
with regard to the selection of elements and the product, they were both disabled because there was the problem of not allowing the user to change the quality of the data; not within the merits, but let's say that the goal, in this case, was to make a software that could be used by people who won the contests (at the bottom) for digitalization, even in this case not necessarily the best and expert but simply the cheapest.
riliview (my software, based on my framework) follows a different approach: the groo / redo is disabled only if the operation performed involves a modification of the database linked to the elements, while the integrity of the data in general is preserved by checking downstream of any modification that the element obtained is still the same feature of the element from which it came; so, for example, there is no problem (for example) to stretch a line while there would be if of that line (identified as a feature) properties are changed (level) or symbolism (color, thickness, etc.); and in case it is not connected to db, I can safely use undo / redo after every change (obviously every operation involving the database stops this possibility even for previous commands).
the other reports are bugs that I think have never been solved simply by incompetence (and so return to the starting point: Wasn't it better to get things done to who knew how to do it? I would say yes, but who decides has other objectives).

 

[zizou94]

and heh as I wrote you before we also preferred thousand times that the 2000 riles were written by the same people who had made the 2000....cmq of the grapes and the redo there is always the possibility to rub them, it is true that they wanted to delete it forhche' some users (I say some because' the most 'experienced the uterus and the reddish knew very well when using it or even if you were wrong the thing that gave me more ' nuisance and that did not work the commands of the management of the levels and displays level, even if then there was another command + macchinoso and + slow that allowed you the same to turn them off, cmq the thing + absurd and I repeat really absurd variant and that you give me a program that I insert the methane, after several variants, passes here, no passes here, no passes the this is a big problem," xxxxxx simply limited himself to telling us to cancel all the methane and I remake it.... but these jokes??? ? if I did type 6 methanol logs each 20-30 km long mechanized with all the links to the database, I have to rinse everything and put everything back maybe for 10-20 m of small variants?? ? I don't know if you were aware of this problem but look that this is really absurd, so much so that in the end we say with people + managers at the end they agreed waiting for changes of the program, to move the pipeline into project manually that the consequence of errors in quality control....

 

[atrebbi]

variants such as srg (which deals with maintenance and not construction), are a bit different from how you mean maybe you. In theory, it should be redesigned the varied part (and only that), then with a process of insertion variant (which is not available in rili2000, but is instead available in the software in use at srg), this should go to replace the trait that is paid out exercise. Actually, I think this part of the software never worked properly.
the small variant under construction, ie the modification of some summits in the pipeline, once there was (the reli2000 comes from 2000 , the software was the same; there was a reorganization of the eni group, at the end of the 90s, in which it was decided that there should be a single company of the group that should take care of software development and in virtue of this reorganization the software has been transferred from snamprogetti and entrusted to them that then between various other reorganization has become in the enidata order and therefore eni ict, in a chaos reorganization then there have been other vicissitudes for which everything is finished to outsourcing companies, also these with skills most in maintenance. a demonstration of all this is for example in the trunks, which should disappear at the end of the construction process, and that instead srg continues to manage in this way without having ever understood what they serve (but in the systems developed ex-novo for the management, the trunks have obviously not been inserted, which leads however to problems to align the various databases)

 

[anakin87]

variants such as srg (which deals with maintenance and not construction), are a bit different from how you mean maybe you. In theory, it should be redesigned the varied part (and only that), then with a process of insertion variant (which is not available in rili2000, but is instead available in the software in use at srg), this should go to replace the trait that is paid out exercise. Actually, I think this part of the software never worked properly.

I say and add that the program you're talking about is relicont. variants are projects aside and the replacement mechanism works very well lately. I use rili2000 and rilicont. I have brought projects from the issue allowed to the as built without problems but I do not say with that that the problems have disappeared, indeed...

 

[andr34]

years ago I also worked with microstations and eni applications for a short period, recently returned to cartography and I am very interested in any applications, procedures and uses of microstation in this area. I will give an eye to riliview, thank you many

In my initial projects it was an attempt to rewrite old eni applications (which, as you have also verified, often have big problems that make them merely unusable), so that:
- it was easy to install (as it goes into the hands of external companies)
- works on multiple versions (all) of microstations and windows
- easy to extend and change (without needing to write code, in most cases, but still with a sdk provided very simple to use that did not require in-depth knowledge of mdl )

As my attempts to contact Srg to propose it have not gone well, the project has been redirected to a software oriented to the design firms for foreign projects (they use three large firms, as far as I know; it is not really reliview , they are from time to time customized specific packages )

However the reliview package is downloadable and usable freely, you can try it if you want (it can be useful to you, for example, to quickly and without so much trouble verify the export files generated by the companies, to produce striped and stralci in style v8 (I mean, according to bentley guidelines for the production of prints ), and if you want to lose some time to look and change the configuration files and to smanettare

 

[agol]

I would like to ask for information on the application of microstation rilicont. for personal needs I had to create two partitions with two separate hdds, one with win8.1 on disk c and the other with xp on partition d:.
I installed all software and apllicative microstations (descartes, geographic, rili2000 and rilicont) on win xp.
initially rili2000 did not leave, but changing the pathways of the folders I managed to make it work. something very different for rilicont, as when opening a file, just loading on miscrostation, gives me the following error: "mistake in connection to the database: rilicont".
the problem I suppose is due to the fact of having two partitions and he always goes to look for the information about c:, but I'm not sure. Have any of you ever happened? I thank anyone who can help me.
Hi.

 

[atrebbi]

the error in the connection to the database may be due to several causes;

I do not know if microstation used by rilicont installs database support by default; if it does, it may be necessary to install additional drivers;
should try to check if the manual connection to the db (what? ) it works, if yes, then it could actually be a problem of installation of rilicont (application that I frankly do not know, but the problems and the error message seem of the basic software )

I would like to ask for information on the application of microstation rilicont. for personal needs I had to create two partitions with two separate hdds, one with win8.1 on disk c and the other with xp on partition d:.
I installed all software and apllicative microstations (descartes, geographic, rili2000 and rilicont) on win xp.
initially rili2000 did not leave, but changing the pathways of the folders I managed to make it work. something very different for rilicont, as when opening a file, just loading on miscrostation, gives me the following error: "mistake in connection to the database: rilicont".
the problem I suppose is due to the fact of having two partitions and he always goes to look for the information about c:, but I'm not sure. Have any of you ever happened? I thank anyone who can help me.
Hi.