network cad3d designers in italy

[maxopus]

You shaved something important.

start thinking about a name for the structure for which there is a free domain.
must be not too long (it would be better not more than 7-8 characters).
must have characteristics of internationality (that is not for example Italian designers).

If something beautiful comes to mind, let's exchange it privately, I don't want someone passing through to register the domain on his behalf just to break the boxes.

 

[lattu]

it could be useful to create a protected area temporarily within the forum (such as what was done by bankd) and then to abandon it and use a private space.
How about that?

 

[Meccbell]

by analogy :
network name/consortium: xxx-net
domain: xxx-net.it (.com - .biz -.org)

p.s. if you really start the thing and if the same "takes" you well, before going out too far in the open consider also the possibility to deposit the brand; even without a logo, just record the name of the brand, as everything else comes accordingly.
does not cost much, yes and no 200-250€ for a brand "multiactivity" for 10 years and shelters from bad surprises.

already that there are and I have "the handball", I make you a note, from external observer, but very interested and passionate about the thing:
As your discussion goes, I invite you again to try to "stringe" on the strategic vision of the nascent network.
Let's say that you've made a pretty precise idea.

ok also to think about the technical equipment, the premises, to make "the inventory" of the various occupations and/or skills that could be present, the rates, the mountain hours, etc. etc. all things that are certainly important and on which it is necessary to reflect, but that will be faced with the due methods and times.
as well as there will be at least another dozen things that will be done, always precisely and structured.

but, returning to today, the dispassionate advice I give you is closely linked to the said "scripta manent, verba volant".

more clearly said, and in a certain sense even brutally, in how many you are really intentional and ready to "do" something, I would say almost, to extremize, regardless of what you have to do?

So, are you 4-8-10-15?
Okay, let's make that for now, at 24 hours today, the "prescriptions" are closed and that within 3, maximum 5 days each must put black on white the commitment to stay anyway and to work on it.

from there you start with a roadmap that will lead you to the convergence towards the integration of your individual activities in a subject that can present itself outside as a single interlocutor to potential customers.

I tell you immediately that it will be a not short and not easy path, which could happen to lose some "pezzo" on the street or to have to stop, even more than once, to wait for some delay.
But it's something that needs to be done. Don't move.

the "partiam, partiam, partiam..." without knowing exactly where you want to go and even by what means you want to travel could be a triggered mine, placed at the base of the construction that you will learn to realize.

 

[linch]

like not to agree with meccbell,
it is not enough to create a list of excellent professionals in their work, but if the professions are incompatible, we are at the point of first.
Working groups must be created with a high potential(4/5) people who are able to independently develop specific tasks.
an example related to my sector of an old shop already developed:
design of a line of transport billets from high preheat.
would need specific skills, but so much to begin with you could entrust part of the work to mechanical/strutturist experts, to whom should I address?
of course the client claimed a "report of verification of the support part",
I repeat the question, who am I supposed to address?
I think it is essential to know in detail the skills of each of the "participants", and for this purpose (accoding to lattu) I think it is useful in the future to create a protected area.
Max, I'm following you carefully, but believe me this is very complex.

 

[uluwatu_74]

I have no way of being able to stretch too much right now and try to be brief.
for the next few weeks (2-3) I might not be able to find time to actively participate in this project! tomorrow I have to start working in a new context to a hundred.
However, I would point out that I will try to follow as much as possible the development of this situation by reasserting that my interest will focus mainly on the participation and development of design ideas...but that I could be of help in the work of "design/modelling"!
geographical area: dress in the province of macerata but for the moment I will be as told to one hundred!
software: depends!
in the sense that I have no licenses my... but I have always used pro-e at the companies that I worked for! I know well rhino...and I started learning cat v5 that I hope to carry on as much as possible as knowledge!! ! !
Okay... for the moment this is... and I hope in the next few days I can update on developments.
Aloha:finger:

 

[pometto]

We are in pure madness...

 

[MBT]

We are in pure madness...

bhe... this is a lot of offensive, as well as definitely opinable
I invite you to motivate your statement well, perhaps using other terms.
Of course it is, dear little boy, that if you continue so your account is seriously at risk.... :frown:

 

[Matteo]

We are in pure madness...

compliments for constructive comment.
Of course, behind a keyboard it is easy to shoot at zero, but (and I hope the other users and mod) is not the case of feeding trolls :smile:

 

[Mario SJPD]

I'm following you carefully.

- bass band --- need details; ♪

drawing machines and plants for industry
I use solidworks and inventor rarely and worse than I thought autocad.

 

[Meccbell]

We are in pure madness...

"your old old old will make DreamsYours young people they will have visions". [Gioele 2:28]
"stay hungry, stay foolish" (remain hungry, stay mad)[Steve Jobs]and, more modestly, the second motto of "casa meccbell"
"better repentance than regret" :finger:

There were such madness...

 

[MBT]

"your old old old will make DreamsYours young people they will have visions". [Gioele 2:28]
"stay hungry, stay foolish" (remain hungry, stay mad)[Steve Jobs]and, more modestly, the second motto of "casa meccbell"
"better repentance than regret" :finger:

There were such madness...

Oh, well...
If we put it like this...
madness deserves its applause. (alda merini)and, of the series "maybe not everyone knows that..."
in the classical world, madness was unquestionably linked to the sacred sphere: the madman represented the voice of the divine, therefore to listen to it:mixed:

 

[pometto]

I mean pure madness the fact of how you can consociate a holding of projects on the net... I would like to ask you something: from your contract is there written that you can open a second activity? and if you the hypothetical second activity could go to braid with your primary work? Is there a law that allows you to do this if you are dependent? vabbè one might think we woven it to caio that is craftsman he does invoices etc. And all those who work together won't be black? Well, that's why I say it's a very interesting idea, but to say a little imaginative. . .
I would rather patent something by collaborating... But if you think you're setting up a cooperative, I think there's a lot of things to consider!
p-s : As for my account and the fact that it is at risk is due to what? Let me understand... It seems to me that it is a forum and sometimes there can be a little heated discussion.. Don't you ever get to the office? because I come to work with you too...

 

[Mario SJPD]

is not the case of feeding trolls

.........quoto:biggrin:

 

[myface]

that heaven bless people like you, because when someone tells me "impossible!" I always want to forget it..

 

[Fulvio Romano]

I mean pure madness the fact of how you can consociate a holding of projects on the net...

Who ever talked about holding? We talk about consortium companies, not subsidiaries.

I would like to ask you something: from your contract is there written that you can open a second activity? and if you the hypothetical second activity could go to braid with your primary work? Is there a law that allows you to do this if you are dependent?

The law says nothing about it. so there is no need for the private contract to authorize you, at most, if you want, to deny it. You can't compete with the company you're addicted to, but who says you're competing? In addition, 80% of the consortia here seems to me that they are not even employees.

One might think that we're going to write it down that he's a craftsman, he's making invoices, etc. and all those who work together won't be black?

This is a list of crimes, tax and not. I do not think it is necessary to emphasize that not only we do not have this intention, but that it is not even necessary to shake such trianulations, as best explained above.

Well, that's why I say it's a very interesting idea, but to say a little imaginative. . .

I'm glad you think it's interesting. more than imaginative though I would say complex. It is not the first consortium, and it will not be the last.

I would rather propose to patent something by cooperating. . .

depends on the type of work. if the idea of consortium is to provide design services, what patents? a service? Another speech is whether the consortium wanted to be born for the realization of an idea and its marketing. but this is not the intention.

regarding my account and the fact that it is at risk is due to what? Let me understand... It seems to me that it is a forum and sometimes there can be a little heated discussion.. Don't you ever get to the office? because I come to work with you too...

No, I think the problem is not in the emotional discussion. a comment like "is pure madness" is neither the beginning nor the end of a discussion. It's a fuzzy dart launched with [apparente] precise intention to set a fire. this is my opinion, but since it is rather shared by several users in various threads, I would like to suggest with extreme humility and without some assumption, to reread your posts in fresh mind before pressing the "invite response" button. this simply because if your p.s. It's sincere, it means you can't have a neutral view of what you write, or you can't put in writing what you mean, since it is systematically misunderstood.

 

[lattu]

I repeat that it is better to create a protected section where only those really interested enter (even only to speech)

 

[Matteo]

I repeat that it is better to create a protected section where only those really interested enter (even only to speech)

(give me 3 or 4 days) I can put on a protected area on my server.

 

[PaoloColombani]

I read the re_solidworks intervention that has rightly brought to light the most "difficult" points.

I do the devil's lawyer by bringing some "pessimism" on some points (not sure to break the project, on the contrary to make it grow by removing the shoots too much): I've been working on a network project for years and I've had some experience.
inclusion of nonprofessionals: I continue to be against, both for a reason of "mind approach" to the concept of "business", and for practical reasons: availability on working hours, billing mode ( occasional performance? with the limit of 5000€/year? mmm...), availability of regular licenses
tariffe: it is useless to hope to find agreements, I am for a mechanism of self-regulation. a partner becomes a "promotor of a job" that is entrusted to another partner: the second makes a price, the first invoice with a margin that covers responsibility and investment in the phase of fitting to the customer. in both cases there is the convenience to be as competitive as possible by automatically balancing the relationship.
manufacturing companies: I am against, at least at first. It would be much easier to manage a small network of complementary services, at least at first.
various cultural contributions: I sincerely appreciate and admire the technical culture of many who write on the forum, but "being on the market" is another thing (unfortunately

in summary, I would start in agility with small numbers (10 members are already many) and minimum investment: coordination of web visibility and brand, structure of data exchange (common server with archive, dropbox and internal forums?), software correlation (useless to have all the same cad). then if the thing takes off and grow bigger initiatives ... better!

I think it is very relevant and useful to define what will be the success or failure of the idea.

on the inclusion of nonprofessionals in addition to what has already said matteo I would add that I would be very pleased to collaborate with friends here of the forum that are dependent or however not professional, but this introduces some problems, for example how to align the hourly cost of an employee working at home in the evening with the hourly cost of who has an iva game and a masonry study? It is true that it is what many studies do when faced with a sudden excess of work, they make themselves help from friends who can make some bears in the evening, but to frame all this in a consortium or business network is not easy.

 

[PaoloColombani]

I repeat that it is better to create a protected section where only those really interested enter (even only to speech)

Yet even the edges of uninterested users can constitute a crash test to help design a more robust structure, provided that these edges are clearly founded.

 

[lattu]

Of course, however, in addition to the desire to do, there are already too many uncertainties and there are certainly no interventions like that of the dear friend I can make things easier. problems must be solved with due time and methods