delucidazioni su grandezze motori (catalogo abb)

[Emc2]

hi I have to couple a 18.5 kw 4 pole 1500 r/min to a gearbox and that size in the catalog I have two models
mla and mlc the first with size 180 and the second 160 , I wanted to know what refers to the suffix connected to the motor size (180mla , 160mlc) because on the catalog I can not find feedback, the two engines of equal power are indicated on two different tables the 160mlc belongs to the second where a lower number of models are inserted, perhaps because it is about sizes out standard ?

greetings
roberto

 

[MBT]

bhe, at equal axis height you can have a short, long, extra long, supermegalungo motor. . .
longer is the rotor, the more couple you have
more torque you have, at equal rotation, more power you have
Now. if your reducer has a "obligated" entry (e.g. 160) you are forced to take a long version to have the necessary performance
if you take the 180 is a motor that, at equal power, can be shorter

looks and compares the size in the catalog

 

[Enigma]

In fact, you have to pay a lot of attention to the "greatness of the engine" (160, 180 ) and to the type of "flamed attack" (b5 or b14). You can get these from the gearbox.

enigma

 

[MBT]

b14 flanging seems to me not exist for these greatnesses
the catalogue is available up to 132.
from 160 onwards, only b3, b5 or b35
Maybe other producers do it.

 

[Enigma]

b14 flanging seems to me not exist for these greatnesses
the catalogue is available up to 132.
from 160 onwards, only b3, b5 or b35
Maybe other producers do it.

Thanks mbt for clarification, my was a more general speech. Like when you do these things, you watch out for this.

enigma

 

[MBT]

Thanks mbt for clarification, my was a more general speech. Like when you do these things, you watch out for this.

enigma

right consideration
we hope now do not ask what is the b35 flange and the difference with the b14 flange.. .

 

[Enigma]

right consideration
we hope now do not ask what is the b35 flange and the difference with the b14 flange.. .

We put "too much flesh on fire." .

enigma

p.s., however, in the case of "emc2" all the information obtained by looking at the technical sheet of the reducer.

 

[Emc2]

it seems to me that b35 is the designation that includes both flange and support with feet,
and what I need because I must at first simply replace the motorization from a single motor that through parallel shaft and straps transmitted the bike to 3 gearboxes and connect 3 engines from 18.5 kw ,
subsequently replace the above-mentioned gearboxes while preserving the engines.
but I rise again: a doubt the reducer has male shaft the motor idem the flanging b35 needs a connecting bell in which the elastic joint is placed?

 

[MBT]

it seems to me that b35 is the designation that includes both flange and support with feet,
and what I need because I must at first simply replace the motorization from a single motor that through parallel shaft and straps transmitted the bike to 3 gearboxes and connect 3 engines from 18.5 kw ,
subsequently replace the above-mentioned gearboxes while preserving the engines.
but I rise again: a doubt the reducer has male shaft the motor idem the flanging b35 needs a connecting bell in which the elastic joint is placed?

Dear Boy.. .
if the reducer is male and the motor is male... Unless you find a gay reducer, you have to put a double female joint somewhere to suit the two males.
The bell is something... the joint is another
the joint may stare inside the bell
The bell without joint does not transmit the bike...

I don't know if I have clarified or confused ideas

 

[Emc2]

It's what I said without throwing myself on pornography but by re-epigling if I buy a bike-reducer I have no problem.
If I buy the reducer and I already have the engine I have 1) to cheat the flange, 2 get the coupling, if I want to join the two components by means of the two b5 flanges I have to buy separately the connecting "campana" or is already inserted in the supply of the reducer that mechanically connects the motor to the reducer...

 

[Enigma]

It is not said that you need a "campana" there are cases where you do not use...
enigma

 

[MBT]

It's what I said without throwing myself on pornography but by re-epigling if I buy a bike-reducer I have no problem.
If I buy the reducer and I already have the engine I have 1) to cheat the flange, 2 get the coupling, if I want to join the two components by means of the two b5 flanges I have to buy separately the connecting "campana" or is already inserted in the supply of the reducer that mechanically connects the motor to the reducer...

in reality the roads are even more articulated
1) you can take a gearbox (better choice, but valid up to certain sizes and certain types of gearbox)
2) take a reducer with female input (consideration as point 1 )
3) take male reducer, make the bell (difficultly find them to trade) and install a joint
4) take male reducer and mount the joint without using the bell (see enigma attachment)

if for various reasons you find yourself following solution 4... make a lot of attention to the alignments!

 

[Emc2]

It is not said that you need a "campana" there are cases where you do not use...
View attachment 35168enigma

but in this case the flanging is not b5 but it should be b3 that means that the motor has the pins

 

[MBT]

exact
But there's the gunto!
to say that the joint and the bell are not linked by a biunivocal relationship;-)

If you choose this type of installation, be very careful how you will align the axes!

 

[Enigma]

In fact, my purpose was to show you that you are not obliged to put the bell... but you must be very careful (as mbt wrote) to how you will align the axes.
or you can mount the motor fixed with the legs (on your frame), the bell, the joint and then the gearbox (fixed only on the bell and not on your frame....)
or you can mount the gear on your frame, the bell, the joint and then the engine (fixed only on the bell and not on your frame....)
the only thing ... do not mount the motor fixed with the legs (on your frame), the bell, the joint and then the gear fixed on your frame... risk of having "too much centring". .

enigma