meeting demand and job victim for designer cad

[MarcoBi]

I have for a long time refused to make interviews with interviewers who have no knowledge/competence about the activities I should perform.

 

[gil]

all tell me that they can't find good designers/ engineers/workers/technicians

This is what many companies say in my area too, from me, it is just fuffe.
when they seek, I demand remarkable requirements and pay them very little. Obviously, as the worker serves for a very short time they would like it already perfectly formed and refuse to hire people to form and grow. I have heard demanding very remarkable qualifications and offering a tozzo of bread as a salary.

often, instead many entrepreneurs speak only to feel important, they do not admit the crisis of the company and to create excuses like this to justify lacked increases of staff.
but then tell you and find out they have employees with 3 months back. So what do you want me to hire? At most a lawyer.

Finally, when I say that in Italy low-tech goods are produced, I do not mean that we do not have people to do them, but that companies are missing.
once we had enterprises of the electronic and mechanical sector of international level. Today we are almost desertified.

 

[bisogna_rimanere_umili]

...
today, with globalization, if you are an excellent technician, go to work in countries like: use, Australian or German.
if you are a good technician go to the center - northern Europe (eg: france, belgium).
If you're poor, or you don't want to or can't leave Italy, you'll get a low pay.
....

How do you understand if you are "excellent technique" or a "good technique"?
or how could you become it or become it?

 

[stefanobruno]

How do you understand if you are "excellent technique" or a "good technique"?

a self-certification or a course in the region?

 

[gil]

Well the parameters that are taken into account by the selectors or the immigration office of many countries (e.g.:canada) are as follows:
1) degree of study and possible masters, graduates specialization
2) courses and certifications
3) jobs carried out, jobs covered
4) spoken and written languages
5) known software (this counts relatively little)

all in relation to the age of the person.
for example, until a couple of years ago, the canada well accepted graduates with PhD + 1 year of work experience in some prestigious company + certified knowledge britsh of a language between French or English and up to 30 years of age.

If despite this, the person is a "unable" there is no problem, they send him home. In fact many countries bind the residence permit to the place of work.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

there is also the so-called "bilament of skills".
I've been talked about it well, even though it seems like ecdl...

 

[Chiara Morale]

Thank you very much for the suggestion!

Unfortunately it is so.. more than a month we look for a Cad designer available and we can't find him!

Good weekend!

 

[Chiara Morale]

the salary is good and the accommodation at our expense in case the person is not of the area...and even, despite this, it is not found!

 

[Chiara Morale]

hi if you still have trouble finding a designer, I suggest you try to use me remotely. I can send you any resume.
Bye-bye soon

Hey, babe,

Thank you for the offer but we need a full time designer to use at the headquarters of our full time customer so I can't proceed remotely.

Thank you anyway!

Good weekend!

 

[Chiara Morale]

how not to quote lightning,

think that he recently contacted me a professional study looking for a "experienced engineer of at least 5/7 years" and he was willing, heard, to do so immediately indefinite time!
I lay a pitiful veil on the retribuzinoe, about 40% less than my present. If you realize I don't earn much, you'll understand the hunger salary... .lower adjustment of my first job as an absolute graduate employee.

but according to you, with mortgage on your shoulders, do I leave a job indefinitely for a certain one?
but above all, do you not realize to make a figure of shit and discredit the company by proposing a ridiculous salary?

do you want experience, expertise and professionalism?then be willing to pay the right.

p.s: lately, when they call me guys like this, I sell them on the phone mercilessly.

Of course, I want to point out that I have nothing against the opener of the moral clear discussion. It's just my personal rash.

I understand the rash and your situation.

the activity is at the moment for a month and extendable but the salary is good with accommodation at our expense in case the designer is too far away from the workplace!

 

[Chiara Morale]

Good evening, everyone.
I hope I don't irritate anyone and I can honestly be of help.
no, I do not know any specific site, apart from cad3d, where there may be technicians doing job search listings. a part linkedin (that, for example, in the graveyard is used a lot and where they are also inserted, to large lines, the wages previewed to avoid unnecessary losses of time from both sides), could put an insertion of jobrapido job offer, where, often the technicians seek with keywords like cad or designer or tanks or similar. I am not aware whether the listings on that portal are or not paid. I hope not.
Good evening.

Thank you very much for your answer!
Actually on the various search engines of work I have already tried, I was a little looking for specific sites.

Thanks again and good weekend!

 

[Chiara Morale]

Hello stefano,
I'm "resolved" that you think like me, too.

I have several friends in the hr sector and they all tell me that they can't find good designers/ engineers/ experts/technicians. to use their words, they are literally "disperated" because they do not find them.

Things are two:

- look for people with a certain knowledge actually difficult to find (and here we fall into my post)

- once the figure is found, they offer too little to push it/motivate it to change.

thank you for your answer even though I realize that my topic has actually opened a discussion that exudes somewhat from the initial intentions even though it is certainly very interesting as a point of reflection and that I share a lot.
we work with technicians in the oil&gas sector and sincerely at the level of engineers and technicians, no problem.
As for the designer cad, it is a figure of which we usually do not take care of.

the salary I think is good and unlike many companies, we also offer accommodation in the case of distance from the place of residence to that of work.

Hi.

 

[New Rider]

they have reduced us to the bone by precluding many hopes and/or opportunities. . .

 

[budino1]

Hello,I am new in this forum and still answering the message I declare readiness for the assignment.

Bye to all,

I've been enrolled in this forum as I'm dealing with human resources and I've been looking for a cad 2d/3d designer for almost a month with a minimal experience in tanks or pressure devices but without success.

can you tell me if there is a special site where you can find work questions by cad designers looking for work or free professionals in order to contact them? (excluding linkedin).

thanks in advance.
clear

 

[stefanobruno]

Hello,I am new in this forum and still answering the message I declare readiness for the assignment.

Yes, but it's been 14 months since he was looking for someone and, if he found it, it's been a year that that job is over.