anti-piracy controls

[checco03]

dear nx® customer,

siemens plm software products constitute and contain valuable trade secrets and
confidential information of siemens plm software that have been developed over many
years at considerable expense. we provide continuing improvement and customer
assistance through our maintenance update service for correctly licensed users.
we invest heavily in software development and enhancements in order to provide
effective value and quality assurance to our customers.

in recent years, siemens plm software has seen an increasing amount of illegal use
of our software in the marketplace, more commonly known as piracy. piracy has a
number of impacts including affecting the competitiveness of siemens plm software
customers who have legitimately licensed our software who have to compete against
companies using unlicensed software. we share a common interest in stopping piracy
as it affects both siemens plm software and you.

in order to protect both siemens plm software's intellectual property and our mutual
interests, siemens plm software will embed an additional software security mechanism
in our nx releases starting in february 2010 to monitor possible usage of unlicensed
versions of nx. such security mechanism may store data relating to the usage of nx
and may communicate with computers controlled by siemens plm software to report data
relating to the usage of nx. if no unlicensed use is detected, no data will be
communicated back to siemens plm software. furthermore, steps have been taken to avoid
collecting any personal data.

siemens plm software is pleased to have you as an nx customer and we look forward
to many more years of working together to our mutual benefit. should you have any
questions regarding this communication and/or your specific license rights, please
contact your normal siemens plm software sales and support office locally, who
would be able to supply at your request a listing of the nx products our records
indicate have been duly licensed by your company for reconciliation purposes.

best regards,

global sales and services
siemens plm software

 

[IPdesign]

Look at that.
I do not think English very much, but from what I have understood, after the first introductory part of sweetening we are told that:
from February 2010 a security mechanism will be implemented that will store data on the use of nx.
no data will be communicated to siemens if the use of the license is correct.

Can I confirm that the juice is this?

 

[cacciatorino]

It kind of says what you got.

apart from the "big brother" issues that are actually annoying, if using this system they can delete the other of 0x248 would not be bad.

 

[checco03]

Look at that.
I do not think English very much, but from what I have understood, after the first introductory part of sweetening we are told that:
from February 2010 a security mechanism will be implemented that will store data on the use of nx.
no data will be communicated to siemens if the use of the license is correct.

Can I confirm that the juice is this?

That's right. in the solid edge forum there are open discussions because there was also a similar control: Solid Edge with official license executes random controls and when it finds a part executed with pirate license, it locks it. my opinion is that, at this time of crisis, this strategy is a way to "crash the pot" or to sell some licenses to those who thought they were doing the smart.

 

[cacciatorino]

my opinion is that, at this time of crisis, this strategy is a way to "crash the pot" or to sell some licenses to those who thought they were doing the smart.

In my opinion, the piracy contrast systems that work also serve legal users who see themselves disappearing competitors who make subconscious prices for well-known reasons.
What's wrong is the file blocking system that downloads costs and inefficiencies on legal users instead of pirates! However this system should also be present in nx.

 

[checco03]

It kind of says what you got.

apart from the "big brother" issues that are actually annoying, if using this system they can delete the other of 0x248 would not be bad.

Excuse me but I don't look at certain broadcasts: could you enlighten me also on the problem of 0x248?!

 

[cacciatorino]

Excuse me but I don't look at certain broadcasts: could you enlighten me also on the problem of 0x248?!

by "big brother" I meant that of orwell (1984)!
0x248 is the cryptic error that is communicated when an illegal file is loaded.

 

[IPdesign]

to me it seems like a way to make inc....re even more honest users than the license the year paid and here you always return to the same diatribe that triggered time ago dusts.

I believe that most of the regular user "vokes" and asked for transparent control over files from non-compliant licenses several times.

I agree with the system that "blocks" the files from such sources, but I think it is more appropriate that such block does not happen "random" but instantly when it is first opened.

I'll explain.
Case 1

• I am a company that entrusts a job to an external designer
• I receive the material, open it and find that the file is not compliant
• the file crashes and I can't use it
• I do not pay the supplier

case 2

• I am a designer who to do a job I support a colleague
• I receive the material etc. etc.

 

[cacciatorino]

• I am a company that entrusts a job to an external designer
• I receive the material, open it and find that the file is not compliant
• the file crashes and I can't use it
• I do not pay the supplier

If you are close to the date of delivery of the project, you can also not pay the supplier, but then you will arrive late with your client, and maybe in addition to the penalty you will also return the customer, all for fault not yours. Since siemens are so good, they could directly send a 600 volts discharge to the ws where a soft pirate spins.
actually the file blocking method is really a way to earn money with the malware reclamation created by themselves!

 

[IPdesign]

I'm sorry, I'm leaving. continuous

a random system causes me to receive a time bomb and with this system sending information directly to siemens causes me to be intercepted as a holder of pirated material.
with the consequences of the case.

the immediate blocking instead puts me in position not to be able to use such file, consequence that it imposes that it immediately take measures with those who provided me such files.

result = the customer/supplier ratio would be immediately transparent

reduction of smart technical studies that compete at irresistible prices

This is the final point of the struggle, working all with the same parameters.
Competition

 

[IPdesign]

small service note Given recent experiences there is the possibility that this degenerative tread, therefore I invite everyone to stick to the normal rules of common sense and civil discussion.
every exit from these tracks will inevitably result in the cancellation of the post

 

[cacciatorino]

a random system causes me to receive a time bomb and with this system sending information directly to siemens causes me to be intercepted as a holder of pirated material.
with the consequences of the case.

This is an interesting point, it would be to be understood if the system sends the signal only when it is running software not fired, or even when it is loaded files originating from pirate licenses but in different companies. in this case would be the end of systems like traceparts et similar, who could ever trust?

 

[IPdesign]

If you are close to the date of delivery of the project, you can also not pay the supplier, but then you will arrive late with your client, and maybe in addition to the penalty you will also return the customer, all for fault not yours. Since siemens are so good, they could directly send a 600 volts discharge to the ws where a soft pirate spins.
actually the file blocking method is really a way to earn money with the malware reclamation created by themselves!

This is a problem that arises even if the supplier does not deliver the material in time or you deliver it with your feet.
I believe that a supplier demonstrates its reliability over time, a subject that provides such material gives you to the first job.
also there is always a chance to rival for any damages
with the impending of a possible complaint also to the bsa see that several doors open

 

[IPdesign]

This is an interesting point, it would be to be understood if the system sends the signal only when it is running software not fired, or even when it is loaded files originating from pirate licenses but in different companies. in this case would be the end of systems like traceparts et similar, who could ever trust?

currently the screen that alerts the "unconformed" file is so, random .

personally I would also appreciate a testing solution from their website.
I connect to their site, I upload a file received and standalone the system examines it instantly by providing me with a ceck.

 

[checco03]

currently the screen that alerts the "unconformed" file is so, random .

personally I would also appreciate a testing solution from their website.
I connect to their site, I upload a file received and standalone the system examines it instantly by providing me with a ceck.

I spoke to the Italian leaders of s i e m e n s to understand more, but the mechanism is not clear. the strategy is precisely to not reveal details to prevent someone from inventing an escamotage: For example, if the "infect" part is reported instantly it would be enough to export it to parasolid and reimport it, then it changes it with syncronous. instead with random control if there is some part "infect" a nice day of alzi and not only does not open it anymore but also the projects that use it. So far, it never happened to me, but if that happens, it would be a lot of trouble. :angry:

 

[IPdesign]

I spoke to the Italian leaders of s i e m e n s to understand more, but the mechanism is not clear. the strategy is precisely to not reveal details to prevent someone from inventing an escamotage: For example, if the "infect" part is reported instantly it would be enough to export it to parasolid and reimport it, then it changes it with syncronous. instead with random control if there is some part "infect" a nice day of alzi and not only does not open it anymore but also the projects that use it. So far, it never happened to me, but if that happens, it would be a lot of trouble. :angry:

Here, what you told is the system that makes many angry and the reason is simple and for years always the same.
the last company that uses certain files is "used" to fight the phenomenon, without that it can prevent its own damage to the birth.
here is the focal point of nonsenso .


I sent you an mp

 

[checco03]

Here, what you told is the system that makes many angry and the reason is simple and for years always the same.
the last company that uses certain files is "used" to fight the phenomenon, without that it can prevent its own damage to the birth.
here is the focal point of nonsenso .


I sent you an mp

on the other hand, those who use pirate licenses do not update the software therefore will not install the controls (at least immediately).

ps: although I have never had reports so far, to avoid future problems I sent a communication to my users to dissuade them to import 3d files of dubious origin.

 

[cacciatorino]

on the other hand, those who use pirate licenses do not update the software therefore will not install the controls (at least immediately).

There's a lot of people dumping themselves from the mule and living happily and blessed until one day the door rings and there are two men in uniform!

 

[IPdesign]

on the other hand, those who use pirate licenses do not update the software therefore will not install the controls (at least immediately).

ps: although I have never had reports so far, to avoid future problems I sent a communication to my users to dissuade them to import 3d files of dubious origin.

It is not so much a problem of those who produce tarot files, but as you understand from those who find themselves after a long time to have them in his archive.

example use an old component as standard part in my molds
now that I realize that the part is failed I produced a dozen molds.

Who should I thank when the bomb bursts?

 

[checco03]

It is not so much a problem of those who produce tarot files, but as you understand from those who find themselves after a long time to have them in his archive.

example use an old component as standard part in my molds
now that I realize that the part is failed I produced a dozen molds.

Who should I thank when the bomb bursts?

siemens has the tools to clean it but asks 100 € per file for the service. I hope that if one is in good faith, as in your case, they will be joined. :tongue: