automatic drawing and printing

[Looz]

Hello, guys.
I have a problem about saving the designs and assigning the name.
In practice I created a formula on the cartiglio that relates the name of the file (in this case the code of the assieme a1401-1) with the sheet number.
so just add a sheet that automatically get the component name progressively with the sheets.the problem lies in the fact that when I go to print or save in pdf the numbering of the sheets is canceled and on each sheet remains the word "sheet 1 of 5" as if it reported all the sheets to the first.

Therefore the name of the compost always remains "01" final on all sheets and the speech made before is less.It seems strange that it does not keep the numbering of the leaves when I save all the drawings together!
in the pdf rescue options I found nothing that can solve this.

So basically, do you know a method to save/print a necklace of sheets maintaining the progressive numbering of solid edge sheets?
or do you usually make all drawings on individual dft files and then in saving you assign a new name to the drawing?

as always thanks in advance!:biggrin:

 

[Be_on_edge]

I use the numbering sheets regularly on my dfts and I never found this problem.

have you installed the latest maintenance pack for your solid edge version?

Hi.

 

[Looz]

I had installed it, but then the assistance advised me to return to service pack 7 because I had encountered problems together and told me that the previous version was more stable!

I try to get the updated version back.

Thank you!

 

[Be_on_edge]

I had installed it, but then the assistance advised me to return to service pack 7 because I had encountered problems together and told me that the previous version was more stable!

I try to get the updated version back.

Thank you!

I am on st6 mp7 and everything works regularly.

Hi.

 

[Looz]

I tried to install the mp8, I also restarted the pc, but nothing to do the problem persists.

 

[Be_on_edge]

in the pdf rescue options you put "all sheets" right?

 

[Looz]

in the pdf rescue options you put "all sheets" right?

Yes, but it's the same.
remains 1 of 5

I don't understand....maybe the reference of the formula "number sheet", maybe I don't have to put active document but "vision drawing" or other I don't know.

 

[delki]

Can you post the call code?

 

[cacciatorino]

It seems strange that it does not keep the numbering of the leaves when I save all the drawings together!
in the pdf rescue options I found nothing that can solve this.

did you print every sheet on an individual pdf file? or even printing a unique multifoil pdf?

 

[Looz]

these are the reference codes for the design name and for the numbering of pages
for the hunter post instead, the problem I have when I save everything in a single multifoil pdf, especially according to the sheet where I start the multifoil saving (for example the second sheet) applies the same number to all other sheets (so the code of all components will end with 2).

instead if saved individually the files all regular; I put on the sheet, save or mold and automatically apply the code to the drawing and the sheet number.

rightly if I can do this with a single multifoil rescue would be a nice saving of time!

 

[vespa_83]

I've been using it for years. sheet %{sheet number} / %{number of sheets}
and which mould or save in pdf : "all sheets"
never had similar problems.

 

[Looz]

Unfortunately I haven't been able to solve the matter yet, I'm sure wrong to set something up!
I was thinking, isn't there any macros that automatically takes all sheets of the dft file and saves them individually in separate pdf?



I also take advantage of it to ask you some advice on the organization of assemblies and final drawings.

If you have time and want to write a few lines of answer to my questions I would be very grateful!
Perhaps it can be a way to share tips and strategies useful to many :biggrin:

I still have some difficulty in getting all phases of the project to coincide in an orderly manner and having an optimal result.
Until now I had to realize projects starting from old sketches on paper, and as the company did not yet have a cartiglio or an internal coding of the pieces, at first I gave "descriptive" names to the various parts.
when then we decided the code, I then found myself in difficulty in matching the descriptive name of the file with the new internal encoding and I tried to solve by correcting the name of the dft file with the drawing sheet, as mentioned earlier post: I put the drawing together on the first sheet, below all the components on the other sheets (in relation to the sheet number) and use the file name in the description box of the piece on the paper.

the thing became complicated when I then pulled out "the list parts " from the axieme.....to coincide the position of the sheets with the automatic balling became an unsustainable calvary.

I partially solved by pulling out the list parts from the beginning on the first sheet and developing the drawings following the order of the components dictated on the table.

other problem that I have found is the fact that when I use the "spect" function together these then turn out to me as additional pieces in the component table (and indeed have the final word "_mir" on the table) with position and dedicated quantities; so I think I have to use this function only when there is a difference between a dx and sx piece and not to speed up the positioning of some symmetric components.


therefore ultimately:

- How do you plan the workflow in general?
-name the files immediately with the internal company code or use a descriptive name and then add the code to the final stage?
-used macros for automatic drawing coding?
-Different components do it directly in solid edge or do you have other methods?

I hope I have not bored you too much and thank you in advance for your time.

 

[Be_on_edge]

Unfortunately I haven't been able to solve the matter yet, I'm sure wrong to set something up!
I was thinking, isn't there any macros that automatically takes all sheets of the dft file and saves them individually in separate pdf?

I am not aware of it but it is not too difficult to achieve. But I would abandon this way of working.

I also take advantage of it to ask you some advice on the organization of assemblies and final drawings.

If you have time and want to write a few lines of answer to my questions I would be very grateful!
Perhaps it can be a way to share tips and strategies useful to many :biggrin:

I still have some difficulty in getting all phases of the project to coincide in an orderly manner and having an optimal result.
Until now I had to realize projects starting from old sketches on paper, and as the company did not yet have a cartiglio or an internal coding of the pieces, at first I gave "descriptive" names to the various parts.
when then we decided the code, I then found myself in difficulty in matching the descriptive name of the file with the new internal encoding and I tried to solve by correcting the name of the dft file with the drawing sheet, as mentioned earlier post: I put the drawing together on the first sheet, below all the components on the other sheets (in relation to the sheet number) and use the file name in the description box of the piece on the paper.

And here it gets weird a lot... It seems almost that in the specifications of how the piece code is to be made the sheet number on which it is present

What happens when a particular one tomorrow will be used on another project? you put it back on the table (time check) and you have to put it on the same page (will be available ?).
and if more people will have to work on the table of different details?

the thing became complicated when I then pulled out "the list parts " from the axieme.....to coincide the position of the sheets with the automatic balling became an unsustainable calvary.

I partially solved by pulling out the list parts from the beginning on the first sheet and developing the drawings following the order of the components dictated on the table.

as you see the problems of this "method" chosen to work are multiple while the benifices... Well, there's no one.

I suggest you start using the fields "object", "title" and "number document" of the properties of the files to insert this data. Since the encoding will be unified I also recommend you to give the file name equal to the code and to arrange a folder structure so you can quickly find it.

and above all: each part must have its design, it is really a monstrosity to have a unique file with all parts.
if you want to distribute a unique pdf you can solve with a union press.

other problem that I have found is the fact that when I use the "spect" function together these then turn out to me as additional pieces in the component table (and indeed have the final word "_mir" on the table) with position and dedicated quantities; so I think I have to use this function only when there is a difference between a dx and sx piece and not to speed up the positioning of some symmetric components.

can also be used to speed up the placement of the pieces, provided they are symmetrical; if they are not and you do not want to mirror them as geometry but only as a position you have to manually tell them that it is a "rotation" and not a "spect".

therefore ultimately:

- How do you plan the workflow in general?
-name the files immediately with the internal company code or use a descriptive name and then add the code to the final stage?
-used macros for automatic drawing coding?
-Different components do it directly in solid edge or do you have other methods?

I hope I have not bored you too much and thank you in advance for your time.

My flow is:
- general study
- review
- final study
- coding
- construction drawings
- validation
- pdf release

if I already have clear ideas I immediately share details, otherwise I use comfortable names and I share them when the project is defined.

use macro to speed all operations

the distinct creates it directly from solid edge and elaborates it on excel before loading it on the management.

Hi.

 

[vespa_83]

1., 2., 3. :
each drawing piece has its own code and description, has its design and undergoes its revisions. can be mounted on different assemblies.
each set has its own code and description, it has its own dissected or exploded design and undergoes its revisions that not to go mad not always go hand in hand to the drawings of the components but only when the updates are indispensable (change the shape or number of components).

Usually the drawing files of the pieces use as name the code.

if historicity, or traceability is important is almost indispensable a pdm (product data management) that would be a support program in technical office for the management and search of codes with drawing. basically create a code card, connect relevant files and launch storage commands, vidimation, extraction for review. with another window search by code and description. the values of the fields are transcribed on the custom properties of the s.e file. for the compilation of documents and references property (code, design, material, date, revision, various personalized info. . . )

instead of a pdm many small companies use structures in windows folders and an excell or access file. the order is fundamental and is often managed by one person who has the right to read/write while others have only the right to read.
a user has created a method that is willing to share, read here.

Finally all these codes correspond, if possible, to the management company that launches orders and orders and manages the warehouse.

4. ties: it depends, in fact for the new pieces it is easy to make first the drawing and then insert the ties in the management, if instead there are changes and the technical office is clogged you first to insert the changes on the management company then the update design is postponed. I personally built methods that with few copy-pastes highlight the differences between two tables, to verify the differences between management and cad.

5. mirror and "_mir": "I have to use this function only when there is difference between a dx and sx piece " yes.


So your idea of putting everything on a single draft (which will take different time to open) is used for niche jobs, I would say ..., finds application for carpentry pieces or single sales, where single pieces often do not need a sub-code. that to divide then every pdf in single sheet seems a little counter-tendence on what you do with the drafts.

However everyone at his home is free to do as he thinks best for himself.

Good job.

 

[Looz]

Thanks guys!:biggrin: