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better inventor or solidworks?

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cacciatorino said:
According to me for this would suffice a small revision of the specific step, as well as to transfer the "metadati" associated with solids, possible that you can not add to the file step of the lines with written:

"property_1@solid1 = brunitura"
"property_2@assembly4 = circular saw group"
"property_3@face123= recommended replacement"

and then when you reimport the solid you do all the associations you want as you do now reappearing fonts and lines with dwg? mystery!

I don't agree with you, if this isn't developed, it's because no software company has an interest in facilitating data transfer between different applications, so that it's easy to sell the program to the whole induced, once sold to the "big factory".

If these two things worked (wins of assemblies but above all metadata) I think it would be enough for me to have a cad to please all customers, instead of having to buy a different one for each one, or give up taking them knowing that I will never spoil them....

I think it's technically difficult. . . .
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I use 99% in jt as exchange vehicle between different cad.. .
- solid geometry is always ok: st works well
- assembly brings structure
- the matings for now are not but we are working on it:)
- metadata are brought
- 2d is not included in the translation: I normally use customised iges
- jt > nx is included for free...

in love jt :finger:
 
I can't follow you!:biggrin::biggrin:
Anyway, okay that are two different functions but solve the same problem right?! However in solidworks is there an alternative function or is there just this for imported files?
 
featureworks does what he told you about hunting and that is, he tries to interpret the model in his way by showing you how he would make it. recognizes only very simple geometries and as much as I used it I do not recommend it, it is a wrong approach.
the model should not be related to the taste of having the defined scketch but must be checked properly and the rules must dictate the designer.
if you do not have control of the models you do not even have control of the project and this (especially with a parametric cad) is dangerous because you could get results different from your expectations after changes.
Also in solidworks there are commands that allow you to manipulate the imported, command that act directly on the solid leaving trace in the feature manager.
even today I manipulated sheets imported from a proe step without any problem.
you do not have the freedom of the native model, but something you do and you do it better than recognizing the functions.
 
re_solidworks said:
featureworks does what he told you about hunting and that is, he tries to interpret the model in his way by showing you how he would make it. recognizes only very simple geometries and as much as I used it I do not recommend it, it is a wrong approach.
the model should not be related to the taste of having the defined scketch but must be checked properly and the rules must dictate the designer.
if you do not have control of the models you do not even have control of the project and this (especially with a parametric cad) is dangerous because you could get results different from your expectations after changes.
Also in solidworks there are commands that allow you to manipulate the imported, command that act directly on the solid leaving trace in the feature manager.
even today I manipulated sheets imported from a proe step without any problem.
you do not have the freedom of the native model, but something you do and you do it better than recognizing the functions.
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thank you, of course, if I want parametric files I create them from scratch, I don't get to recognize functions... cross your fingers...
 
GD1907 said:
look at this graphic comparison document, at the moment it is rather scarce, if someone had opinions, advice, observations are more than welcome.
Thank you.
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Let's say I don't understand what you want to prove with this document. . .
 
Parametric_Ozzy said:
Let's say I don't understand what you want to prove with this document. . .
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I agree. . .
Besides, a couple of notes.. .

the creation of the plans in inventor can be done quietly with only one command depending on the selected entities (when understood the operation, it is very simple)... the possibility to choose a priori the type of plan appeared with 2011.

I haven't used 2011 lately, but if I don't remember, the context menu of features (without pop-up window but directly on screen) is available in the definition phase, not only in change of the feature itself.. .
 
cacciatorino said:
It seems to me that it is a doc to be submitted to the company management to guide them in the choice of the instrument.
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Oh my god...
These things make them do to professionals. . .
never seen a worse document... If I were the general manager of the company, I'd be embarrassed about the level of my employees.
 
cacciatorino said:
It seems to me that it is a doc to be submitted to the company management to guide them in the choice of the instrument.
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The_Matrix said:
Oh my god...
These things make them do to professionals. . .
never seen a worse document... If I were the general manager of the company, I'd be embarrassed about the level of my employees.
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ahah.. No, no, I don't introduce anything to high management!
It was a personal initiative, the idea was to throw down some differences, as to choose will be totally ignorant people of cad 3d, the only solution was to use images, because in words they don't understand a c...!
and above all in words, it happens that who is in favor of solidw say something, who in favor of inventor says the exact opposite! ! ! !
Then I did it in a couple of hours, of course I need advice, the idea I think it's good anyway!
Tell me what I should do to get out of it!
surrender to change?! I find inventor more slender and less intuitive than solow, so I want to do everything possible to avoid making a wrong choice whose consequences I will have to pay again.
 
GD1907 said:
ahah.. No, no, I don't introduce anything to high management!
It was a personal initiative, the idea was to throw down some differences, as to choose will be totally ignorant people of cad 3d, the only solution was to use images, because in words they don't understand a c...!
and above all in words, it happens that who is in favor of solidw say something, who in favor of inventor says the exact opposite! ! ! !
Then I did it in a couple of hours, of course I need advice, the idea I think it's good anyway!
Tell me what I should do to get out of it!
surrender to change?! I find inventor more slender and less intuitive than solow, so I want to do everything possible to avoid making a wrong choice whose consequences I will have to pay again.
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Look. .
your document is as if you make comparison between a golf and a julietta based on the lining of the hand brake lever and the color of the back of the seats.. .
 
The_Matrix said:
Look. .
your document is as if you make comparison between a golf and a julietta based on the lining of the hand brake lever and the color of the back of the seats.. .
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Well... what comparisons are these.golf all life... safe, stable, well done:biggrin: and then it is in caia:biggrin:
 
GD1907 said:
ahah.. No, no, I don't introduce anything to high management!
It was a personal initiative, the idea was to throw down some differences, as to choose will be totally ignorant people of cad 3d, the only solution was to use images, because in words they don't understand a c...!
and above all in words, it happens that who is in favor of solidw say something, who in favor of inventor says the exact opposite! ! ! !
Then I did it in a couple of hours, of course I need advice, the idea I think it's good anyway!
Tell me what I should do to get out of it!
surrender to change?! I find inventor more slender and less intuitive than solow, so I want to do everything possible to avoid making a wrong choice whose consequences I will have to pay again.
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That's why I asked for the end and I hoped it wasn't this...
because people who choose do not understand anything of cad3d (and you know how much it cares?), I think you have wrong type of presentation, let lose graphics, intuition, etc, but focus on money!! !
If you really want to change your mind to someone (and I doubt it strongly..), you absolutely have to do a more accurate analysis in economic terms than you will lose to the passage and how much you will put us to be back operational to 100 %, then maybe and only there, someone will consider your presentation, otherwise believe me you are losing only time and I give you a passionate advice:
It is obvious that you prefer swx as well as others used for years to a cad system, it is always difficult to accept to have to change to another sw, especially if of the same band, take it on the positive side, you will have an extra sw to put in the resume, in the end it is not negative suit if it should happen. . :rolleyes:
 
Parametric_Ozzy said:
That's why I asked for the end and I hoped it wasn't this...
because people who choose do not understand anything of cad3d (and you know how much it cares?), I think you have wrong type of presentation, let lose graphics, intuition, etc, but focus on money!! !
If you really want to change your mind to someone (and I doubt it strongly..), you absolutely have to do a more accurate analysis in economic terms than you will lose to the passage and how much you will put us to be back operational to 100 %, then maybe and only there, someone will consider your presentation, otherwise believe me you are losing only time and I give you a passionate advice:
It is obvious that you prefer swx as well as others used for years to a cad system, it is always difficult to accept to have to change to another sw, especially if of the same band, take it on the positive side, you will have an extra sw to put in the resume, in the end it is not negative suit if it should happen. . :rolleyes:
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Yes yes that of the resume ok, obvious that is one more thing!
the risk we run though is that, having had difficulty getting solidw foot (they didn't make us use), if inventor was worse, we will have even more, and then we will end up drawing in 2d!
However I have already made a rather detailed report, in technical terms (the economic ones are not of my competence) on the differences, this of the graphic comparison was one more thing.
I'll let this go as it goes.
 

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