enri
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in fact I read now the confirmation, that two witnesses have seen to throw the anchor to a firm ship. But then how the hell did he turn south like that, just the currents from the north?
Exatem
Guest
right now they said that somehow they try to break it because it's moving 7mm an hour.
as in all history, it is time the determining factor.
could, exploiting bits and onboard winches as strengths, attempt to pass cables and chains. the problem is where to find a corresponding "fixed point" on the ground. or, I shoot a minkite, sink thrust cylinders to use as "dead races" (here we have several) while on the ground we try to drill and plant poles.
on the occasion you could take advantage to put sketch to "strapparadicchio" and stack him as well.
maxopus
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to "straparadicchio" is not bad... 
Well come on... then my stay foolish, stay hungry is a shared attitude also by those who understand much more than me.
Of course, as you say, keeping a beast from 115.000 tons when the waves arrive... is a temerary operation.
How many hundreds of outlet points will be needed to avoid tearing?
We hope that beyond the victims, we must not cry also the ruin of one of the most beautiful places in our country.
Let's cross our fingers.
Well come on... then my stay foolish, stay hungry is a shared attitude also by those who understand much more than me.
Of course, as you say, keeping a beast from 115.000 tons when the waves arrive... is a temerary operation.
How many hundreds of outlet points will be needed to avoid tearing?
We hope that beyond the victims, we must not cry also the ruin of one of the most beautiful places in our country.
Let's cross our fingers.
Fulvio Romano
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Maybe I say nonsense, but a chain or a steel top of hundreds of meters between the mainland and the ship, if for any reason they were to tear, or yield the point of connection... do you imagine the orchard? Isn't it less risky to let her get away?
Perhaps they are better than rigid links, than I know, pipes or bars.
p.s.
I heard, fortunately unseen, of a guy practically cut half by the whip of a gomena of a party ferry without giving up all the moorings, to the napoli drink.
Perhaps they are better than rigid links, than I know, pipes or bars.
p.s.
I heard, fortunately unseen, of a guy practically cut half by the whip of a gomena of a party ferry without giving up all the moorings, to the napoli drink.
athlon
Guest
the orchard is there if the yield is sudden and catastrophic, in this case I would leave a dozen meters of (cym, cable , chain) more 'beyond the block and make a fixation for friction, overcome a certain traction semplicmente the fastening of the spring, and even if the ship had to give completely and suddenly the top/cave/cave acquire
I believe that the ship is moving both for the progressive transfer of the ground on which it rests (a lot of tons on rocks not designed to support them) and because inside the humidity is filling the furniture above the level of the water making them heavy and moreover I believe that there are many underwater places that before were still full of air (e.g. the pipes of the electric cables) that are gradually filling the ship
I believe that the ship is moving both for the progressive transfer of the ground on which it rests (a lot of tons on rocks not designed to support them) and because inside the humidity is filling the furniture above the level of the water making them heavy and moreover I believe that there are many underwater places that before were still full of air (e.g. the pipes of the electric cables) that are gradually filling the ship
Fulvio Romano
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I'm going to the eye. . .
the breaking stretch of a "normal" steel is about 5%. or when you put the two pieces of audition close.
We say that at maximum length, on the stretch you have a 40% yielding (that 5%) and a 60% elasticity. therefore to break, the "frusted" is a return of about 7.5% of the length of the rope.
If the rope and 100m will notice 7.5m... I don't know if I explain.. .
the breaking stretch of a "normal" steel is about 5%. or when you put the two pieces of audition close.
We say that at maximum length, on the stretch you have a 40% yielding (that 5%) and a 60% elasticity. therefore to break, the "frusted" is a return of about 7.5% of the length of the rope.
If the rope and 100m will notice 7.5m... I don't know if I explain.. .
maxopus
Guest
safety zone, pull everything with signs and fences and do not bring anyone, radius 150 meters (if the ropes or chains are 100 meters)
So much is not a definitive thing ... those two or three years necessary for emptying the reclamation and dismantling:
Exatem
Guest
the cable roads, (so we call them) are "in the air" (see attachment) so there are not in this case, tubing to flood.
however the more time passes and the more decreases the float. In theory it shouldn't be bad. less floatability, less sensitivity to wind and currents even if the mass invested by the currents of the sea is remarkable.
but yes, the security systems are there. then the chains if they break do not whip contrary to the cables (the one of the man cut in two I heard it too).
We're still in an unclear phase. too many voices and too many versions, the last I heard is that the submarine can actually and further so the hull at the moment does not run the risk of disappearing. It's hard to get a clear idea by hearing the news. interested only to know if sketch entertained cultural relations with Moldova.
but this is the tv of mara venier, of shock barbarian and of gentlemen. . .
maxopus
Guest
I am aware of the fact that from afar it is impossible to make a correct assessment, we lack too much data.
It's right to chat and try to figure out what happens from the operational point of view in these fringes.
Er Presidente
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Er Presidente
Guest
This view seems to make the idea better.
This is a battleship, smaller than the hotel, up to 40,000 tons, but if one wants, everything can be done, just spend the money (of whom?).
notice how many people with the cannello in their hand, after half an hour, who is working to tear down the hull and try to save those closed inside (without success).
This is a battleship, smaller than the hotel, up to 40,000 tons, but if one wants, everything can be done, just spend the money (of whom?).
notice how many people with the cannello in their hand, after half an hour, who is working to tear down the hull and try to save those closed inside (without success).
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myface
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If they do something like that, it's just because they're American
Erikilrosso
Guest
How long have they used to set up such a recovery system? However coast and seabed seem different from those of the lily.
is recovery not covered by insurance?
the old government would have taken advantage of it to put an excise (eternal) on the fuel for the recovery of the ship to protect the coast through the environmental goods, maybe it will do so too.
However, apart from the severity of the assodated accident, ignorance, supponency and anchovies of the usual known ones are shocking. journalists seek, good or bad, to give information on the basis of what they collect, but are unbearable all those means envelopes and conductors who plunder empty disregarding voices collected here and there, sometimes without ever having been at sea if not on irons at the bottom in front of the madhouse. :angry:
is recovery not covered by insurance?
the old government would have taken advantage of it to put an excise (eternal) on the fuel for the recovery of the ship to protect the coast through the environmental goods, maybe it will do so too.
However, apart from the severity of the assodated accident, ignorance, supponency and anchovies of the usual known ones are shocking. journalists seek, good or bad, to give information on the basis of what they collect, but are unbearable all those means envelopes and conductors who plunder empty disregarding voices collected here and there, sometimes without ever having been at sea if not on irons at the bottom in front of the madhouse. :angry:
Exatem
Guest
the ship of the photos of the president is the uss oklahoma sunk on 7 December 1941.
during the attack of pearl harbour, five torpedoes planing perfectly on the water, flowed the bottom and emerge hitting the bow and stern the oklahoma. on the armored skips the electrical system; the hull is torn in three points and in 12 minutes it turns over. overturning that is stopped by the superstructure when it touches the seabed.
the authorities of the base of pearl harbor will give way to the recovery of the ship on July 15, 1942 and it will take more than a year of work. In fact, on 28 November 1943 the ship will be able to be picked up in the dock where it will be demolished.
in the photo, taken from another angle, you see the structure that was built on the wreck.
as highlighted in other posts, it is above all a matter of time.
sheltered from a port, with the ship tilted on the right side (the harmony with the coast and lying on the wall "wrong") and without the danger of worsening of the conditions of the sea, would certainly be less complicated.
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Mike1967
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I have a question for you technical "acquophones" :
the thickness of the sheet that has torn with the collision, what thickness does it have?
Sorry if the question is trivial, but I have no idea. :redface:
the thickness of the sheet that has torn with the collision, what thickness does it have?
Sorry if the question is trivial, but I have no idea. :redface:
Exatem
Guest
You should see the drawings of the structure or the development of the template.
the barrel took it in the "ginocchio" which is one of the points where the thickness is consistent.
looking at the cafiero, for ships of a length greater than 175m is indicated a thickness of 23mm. but it is an indicative value.
Mike1967
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Thanks for the answer.
Of course, seeing how you've cured, you're struggling to imagine that one
thickness of the genus is dissolved in that way.
in my work we often use 20 mm sheet, these days on the water cut we have a 30 mm sheet and seeing it think... and who can destroy it
a sheet of the genus (sketch succeeds...).
Thanks again.
enri
Guest
the complete course.
He seems to want to demolish the cliff, then he reconsidered. . .
He seems to want to demolish the cliff, then he reconsidered. . .
Er Presidente
Guest
After the shock, the rudder stuck all to "dritta" compensated for the disconnection, then twisted the scrap that landed on the spot where it arose.
Erikilrosso
Guest
how did he make the eyelet and then go through that traverse, just for inertia? but what distance does the engine run off?
engineers what do you say?
engineers what do you say?