license solid edge tips

[ghostryke]

Good morning to all, I wanted to put a situation where I was wrong but I can't get out of it.
After speaking to a company of our collaborators we decide to install a 3d software (in this case solid edge), proposal made, offered until weekend to dismiss a current 3d and move to solid edge at zero cost, but only with a three-year contract of assistance to a reasonable figure. we accept and in this time frame, I unload the program to try not original , but the same goirno discover that you can download free from the solid edge page in test for 30 days................... Nobody told me about this. just yesterday contact me siemens through a lawyer explaining that I will have to pay about €48,000 for a full license of everything .... .
I have a contract in hand, technical staff have lost little time and I can prove that the contract is already stipulated ......... but nothing to do and they lowered my request to about 13,000 euros for a simpler version.
I have sinned of lightness, due to the desire to try, but possible that despite trying to assert good faith and not knowing of the free one with a contract already signed..... I feel treated like a cyber pirate. I pointed out that we have everything original in the company and if they want to check on the comuter.....solid edge was only open and didn't create a file.... .
I repeat... excessive lightness, but in front of the facts some humanity where you leave it?
Did something like that happen to someone?
greetings

 

[Be_on_edge]

Good morning to all, I wanted to put a situation where I was wrong but I can't get out of it.
After speaking to a company of our collaborators we decide to install a 3d software (in this case solid edge), proposal made, offered until weekend to dismiss a current 3d and move to solid edge at zero cost, but only with a three-year contract of assistance to a reasonable figure. we accept and in this time frame, I unload the program to try not original , but the same goirno discover that you can download free from the solid edge page in test for 30 days................... Nobody told me about this. just yesterday contact me siemens through a lawyer explaining that I will have to pay about €48,000 for a full license of everything .... .
I have a contract in hand, technical staff have lost little time and I can prove that the contract is already stipulated ......... but nothing to do and they lowered my request to about 13,000 euros for a simpler version.
I have sinned of lightness, due to the desire to try, but possible that despite trying to assert good faith and not knowing of the free one with a contract already signed..... I feel treated like a cyber pirate. I pointed out that we have everything original in the company and if they want to check on the comuter.....solid edge was only open and didn't create a file.... .
I repeat... excessive lightness, but in front of the facts some humanity where you leave it?
Did something like that happen to someone?
greetings

In my opinion, either accept their proposal or turn to a lawyer in your turn.

You can try asking the business you signed the contract to do as an intermediary but I'm afraid he's got his hands tied up.

Unfortunately when there are lawyers it takes all a bitter taste.

Let us know how it ends

Hi.

 

[cacciatorino]

Did something like that happen to someone?
greetings

in the past I have heard of such things, but only after long and reiterated uses.

 

[ghostryke]

in the past I have heard of such things, but only after long and reiterated uses.

my use never happened, and the same day I had via email the free activation link ............... I repeat:unbearing, but in good faith for a mixed curiosity and want to try now I can not have the free change with only the three-year assistance......... despite the lawyer siemens understood the good faith of the thing, now I have to pay the program.... say that from the total 48,000 I hope to arrive at about 8,000 of the basic............ But it bothers me the way.
wrong is human, persevering evil....... not having had patience as in my case instead becomes honorable.

 

[ghostryke]

In my opinion, either accept their proposal or turn to a lawyer in your turn.

You can try asking the business you signed the contract to do as an intermediary but I'm afraid he's got his hands tied up.

Unfortunately when there are lawyers it takes all a bitter taste.

Let us know how it ends

Hi.

the intermediary has already said that he has his hands tied, because this thing cannot handle him.......... I also proposed to analyze the pc to see if I have made or read files with solid edge......... nothing to do..... I feel a little bit exaggerated.

 

[cacciatorino]

my use never happened, and the same day I had via email the free activation link ............... I repeat:unbearing, but in good faith for a mixed curiosity and want to try now I can not have the free change with only the three-year assistance......... despite the lawyer siemens understood the good faith of the thing, now I have to pay the program.... say that from the total 48,000 I hope to arrive at about 8,000 of the basic............ But it bothers me the way.
wrong is human, persevering evil....... not having had patience as in my case instead becomes honorable.

I would send them to that country and buy solidworks. if you have no file produced with the version "custom" I want to see them to demonstrate the commission of the crime.

It's your word against them.

 

[stevie]

i would send them to that country and buy solidworks. if you have no file produced with the version "custom" i want to see them to demonstrate the commission of the crime.

it's your word against them.

is it not clear how they came back to your non-original copy and where did you get it from that company you work with?

 

[ghostryke]

i would send them to that country and buy solidworks. if you have no file produced with the version "custom" i want to see them to demonstrate the commission of the crime.

it's your word against them.

on the fact that i have not drawn anything i have no doubts, but they have actually proof of having downloaded an illegal program, so i am always a thief for them. if i think i have to go to solid edge, with this beginning and i pushed for solid works.... i would like to send them to that country, but i can't and i have to be able to bring home the minor damage.

 

[ghostryke]

is it not clear how they came back to your non-original copy and where did you get it from that company you work with?

the file was downloaded from torrent and apparently they have a program when you download it indicating ip address .... also knew the computer name of our internal network....... i don't know if i can use the privacy card......

 

[cacciatorino]

the file was downloaded from torrent and apparently they have a program when you download it indicating ip address .... they also knew the computer name of our internal network...... i don't know if i can use the privacy card......

that means they put it on the net. what you can do is ask explanations about how they got you back from the ip. it means that your provider provided you with your identity without any judicial permission.

that siemens have a police behaviour on licensing is a good thing. the products will also be good but this attitude to consider all other thieves regardless it passes the desire to do business with them (i do not refer to your case, it is a more general consideration of character).

 

[Onda]

recently called me my solidworks salesman telling me to be careful (in the company we are in three with two floating licenses regularly paid, so we are completely in order, but i guess he wanted to say man alerted half saved..) that lately the solidworks began to verify the licenses of his software.
the mechanism is not to verify who downloads a software with bit torrents, but in the fact that when installing sw and i imagine even if, they connect to their server and communicate the ip connection address, the name of the machine and the license code. if the latter proves to be counterfeited a verification starts to trace from the ip address to the company.
my salesman also told me that all this excavates him completely, that the license is sold at full price and that he has no income from all this, creating a factual damage to him, as he has already found himself with customers to whom they forced to purchase another license that he did not sell. and that they are so horny that they promised not to buy him anything else had to change system cad.

shortly after this call, i got another one from a company with which i collaborated that informed me that they received a letter from a sw lawyer who told him that they had installed a pirate version. i think they didn't pay anything but they immediately took off the pirate version, but i think that all is due precisely to the connection of the software to the server for the verification of the license and not to download it with torrent.
i don't think it's illegal to download, but it's illegal to install it on a company car.
there was also a judgment that did not condemn professionals who used pirated software, and i also imagine that the individuals who use it would not be persecutable. so i imagine that for the moment the software houses are orienting themselves to pursue the most structured societies, to understand what they have fixed ip addresses.

 

[cacciatorino]

there was also a judgment that did not condemn professionals who used pirated software, and i also imagine that the individuals who use it would not be persecutable. so i imagine that for the moment the software houses are orienting themselves to pursue the most structured societies, to understand what they have fixed ip addresses.

but if even the ip was static how do they understand what company it is, without going to spulciate in the documentation of the provider?

 

[Onda]

must ask the provider, unless you have your own site and then by typing the ip address you do not open the company site directly. . .

 

[marcof]

the file was downloaded from torrent and apparently they have a program when you download it indicating ip address .... also knew the computer name of our internal network....... i don't know if i can use the privacy card......

i don't know about these computer procedures, but it seems to me that in turn siemens is at the limit of cyber piracy and maybe it has even exceeded it. from when in here it is legal to track the business traffic through a software released in net a mò di esca (because it is clear that the truth of if they have put it), to trace to the ip of a computer and therefore to a certain workplace and use this information to ask for a consideration for the alleged use of a software?
above all i wonder where you jump out the figure of 48.000€. what is it, now they also establish sanctions on their own?

 

[Be_on_edge]

i believe that the data had them through one of the many recordings that are made on their site for example to download the trial version.
have a database with all the data and from which ip have been inserted.
when using licensed software does not adjust this it communicates to them with license code and ip, if they already have that ip in the database here they go back to you.

of course they're just my assumptions.

hi.

 

[gerod]

more or less like saying that I recorded you with a recorder unknowing... It's not legal evidence!
I don't know how they know or have had the ip associated with your company but I think they always hit the usual ones!
Mah!
and then I also believe that the pirate sw is put by them, more or less like a famous one, and then forced you to buy companies when you used them for work.

 

[Tequila]

They want us back to the tecnigraph. . .

 

[Er Presidente]

I'd be curious to know how they handle the licenses in china.

 

[Tequila]

or in Russian or Spanish

 

[paolo1973]

have the name and address ip from a trial version
I can only proceed if they have the signature on a contract, when you buy the software and you acettano the terms of the contract and how to sign the possibility to store your data, if you then install a pirate version..... you celebrate.
if you want advice denies everything and move on another software.
you have nothing to lose, you have no files generated with solid edge