because now we are offtopic.
Italy produces mainly low technology, and second choice products, where there is a lot of competition and little added value. companies are in trouble, for competition from other nations and therefore cut the costs they can cut; or those at work.
we can also pull it, affirming the injustice of “low” salaries, but the world and Italy turn like this.
once many people had near houses companies of a certain prestige.
today, with globalization, if you are an excellent technician, go to work in countries like: use, Australian or German.
if you are a good technician go to the center - northern Europe (eg: france, belgium).
If you're poor, or you don't want to or can't leave Italy, you'll get a low pay.
Of course there are also exceptions in Italy, but they are very few. and it is obvious that being in a transition period, those who have worked 10 years ago, do not perceive what just said.
Hey, gil,
I'm almost always in agreement with your posts but this time I think differently:wink:
First of all, I can tell you that it's not like they're big tops.
If you are able to speak with technicians from manufacturing/metalmechanical companies, I can assure you that they are not really big luminaries.
I personally think that the Chinese and American technicians are more "wives".
So in the first place I would put germany and Scandinavian countries
regarding the discourse of the type of products in part agree: in Italy the technological level of the products is lowering more and more and if you go down to a low level you can not even dream of competing with cina and india.
Among other things the wool, in technology, has far exceeded Italy.
another reason, that if you play it on equal merit with what just written above, is that in Italy everyone goes to university and no one stops after schools specializing in a "mestiere" (as happens in germany and Scandinavian countries).
I saw sheep graduating even with high grades, people I wouldn't bet on even 1 cent who graduated.
people who went to the exam studying one subject praying to arrive at 15....manco at 18!! !
Still these people are the kind of category that gives them 1200€/month indefinitely and are happy to fill excel tables throughout the day because, in the end, they found america!
no ambition, no desire to improve their skills.
the cultural level has been radically lowered. and this forum is a significant sample.
the engineers of now have a much lower preparation than a expert of 20/15 years ago (you can also take this forum as a reference... aside from some exceptions, the most prepared are "non" engineers. make us case).
the experts of now instead come out from the schools that do not know a bat (see for example the questions in the section "students").
the only positive thing is that if a person is able to exploit this situation and succeeds in proposing it could easily emerge from the "mass" with minimal effort.
