new moderator

[maxopus]

I've been assigned the moderation of this area and I don't hide what I like, because now the advanced reverse-based modeling occupies a significant part of my time (and also that of my partner, as well as wife .

It is my intention to make this section more active, because the sector is increasingly evolving and I realize that there is much to do in terms of information.
the topic is very wide, because for the instruments you go from laser scanners, to anthropomorphic arms with laser and mechanical probes, to structured light to fringes, for the software you go from rhino to geomagic, from rapidform to polyworks and to icem surf and for the mcad you go from catia to nx and to creo (ex pro/e).

For example, we could report our experiences in using tools (hardware and software).
In this way we would provide a kind of professional guide for those who want to approach this world.

for the moment I offer my warmest greetings, in the coming days I will post some of my experiences matured in this field.

hasta the view and good things to all.

 

[Tequila]

congratulations and good work to the new moderator. . I hope that if there's any need to peel your legs to someone (even if you need it:biggrin the blade is always sharp

 

[davide75]

Congratulations and a big one in luck!!! !

 

[maxopus]

I've been unloaded, and they've been acting like this.
this area let's give it to max, which so much does not make a caxxo from morning to night

As for the instrument, to be sure of the sharpening, I went directly to Japan...

 

[Er Presidente]

congratulations and good work to the new moderator. . I hope that if there's any need to peel your legs to someone (even if you need it:biggrin the blade is always sharp

Congratulations and a big one in luck!!! !

Calm down, calm down!
a "approval year" is enough!

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[marcof]

I've been unloaded, and they've been acting like this.
this area let's give it to max, which so much does not make a caxxo from morning to night

Maybe from morning to evening you do it also, one day you and three no:tongue:, but this assignment and all associated imprisonments are for the hours going from evening to morning... :smile:

 

[maxopus]

I'd like them to entrust me with a couple of sections that I say... the "scancellerei" directly and democratically with napalm.

 

[cacciatorino]

My most sincere, and heard, congratulations on the demonstration of trust in your person, who is chosen in a thousand, to guide this light wood in seas so cramped and infidi! It is the right crown to a human and spiritual professional trajectory that she has never left for a moment, she will do it in the future!

Good!

 

[maxopus]

I feel an obscure presence behind my back.

 

[radio]

My most sincere, and heard, congratulations on the demonstration of trust in your person, who is chosen in a thousand, to guide this light wood in seas so cramped and infidi! It is the right crown to a human and spiritual professional trajectory that she has never left for a moment, she will do it in the future!

Good!

Look, these are the exact words I would have used, exactly; what hunter installed me a keylogger?

:4425:

 

[Er Presidente]

My most sincere, and heard, congratulations on the demonstration of trust in your person, who is chosen in a thousand, to guide this light wood in seas so cramped and infidi! It is the right crown to a human and spiritual professional trajectory that she has never left for a moment, she will do it in the future!

Good!

I feel an obscure presence behind my back.

It's the "trajectory" thing that "increases" isn't it?
to me it made a strange effect all the speech, I would walk in you shaved at the walls and with a series of spare caps.

 

[maxopus]

It's the "trajectory" thing that "increases" isn't it?
to me it made a strange effect all the speech, I would walk in you shaved at the walls and with a series of spare caps.

already... in "plane" has a particularly dangerous meaning, knows of missile.

 

[xLOGANx]

Hey, Sergeant! Congrats :finger: the king's section was up to you even more than that of the proe:biggrin:

and I have no doubt about the fact that we will make it grow great:biggrin:

 

[flaviobrio88]

It is my intention to make this section more active, because the sector is increasingly evolving and I realize that there is much to do in terms of information.
the topic is very wide, because for the instruments you go from laser scanners, to anthropomorphic arms with laser and mechanical probes, to structured light to fringes, for the software you go from rhino to geomagic, from rapidform to polyworks and to icem surf and for the mcad you go from catia to nx and to creo (ex pro/e).

hi max among the software you mentioned should also put omnicad
Since this technology in the automotive industry is now a daily work.

omnicad has a tool that allows you to adapt the surfaces of an existing cad over the scan with various options, retain the original quality, or until you reach the stl file in a centesimal way.
Hi.

 

[maxopus]

hi max among the software you mentioned should also put omnicad
Since this technology in the automotive industry is now a daily work.

omnicad has a tool that allows you to adapt the surfaces of an existing cad over the scan with various options, retain the original quality, or until you reach the stl file in a centesimal way.
Hi.

ok flavio, I would be curious to understand how omnicad works in reverse.
some questions to understand:
up to how many million triangles (stl) can handle allowing a smooth job?
What is the approach for the generation of surfaces in this area (creo-pro/e in this is identical to icem surfing with some minor features in less than I think will be integrated into the next releases), are generated only by curves or is it possible to obtain them using 4 points belonging to the stl?
is it possible to make an online demo to understand its operation?

I can make a scan available so I can reason about things I've already done.

Maybe I find out that omnicad is my future... that you know:


I should like to say that it is not a good thing to do.
If the measuring instrument (any instrument) has a 2-6 cent error and the piece itself cannot have a perfect shape, tell me what it takes to approach the cent?
in this area, and from the experience that I have experienced, what matters is the quality of what you do.
If you are near the penny but you have a flex point, the customer does not pay you the same:smile:
always from my experience, in the automotive field, you can also stay away on average 0.5 mm, the important thing is that the surfaces are of excellent quality (without flexo points, conical fittings where they serve, and transitions between surfaces made as a rule of art).

waiting for your news, I cordially greet you.
p.s.: say hello to me eighth.

 

[re_solidworks]

I feel an obscure presence behind my back.

in a film dubbed in Ferrara they said:
"if you scratch the bo*sa you feel that you have 4 maroni, don't move.... you could play the game behind!

but you have a flex point, the customer does not pay you the same:smile:

What are you doing? the rhymes?:biggrin:

congratulations and good work.. .

 

[flaviobrio88]

ok flavio, I would be curious to understand how omnicad works in reverse.
some questions to understand:
up to how many million triangles (stl) can handle allowing a smooth job?
What is the approach for the generation of surfaces in this area (creo-pro/e in this is identical to icem surfing with some minor features in less than I think will be integrated into the next releases), are generated only by curves or is it possible to obtain them using 4 points belonging to the stl?
is it possible to make an online demo to understand its operation?

I can make a scan available so I can reason about things I've already done.

Maybe I find out that omnicad is my future... that you know:


I should like to say that it is not a good thing to do.
If the measuring instrument (any instrument) has a 2-6 cent error and the piece itself cannot have a perfect shape, tell me what it takes to approach the cent?
in this area, and from the experience that I have experienced, what matters is the quality of what you do.
If you are near the penny but you have a flex point, the customer does not pay you the same:smile:
always from my experience, in the automotive field, you can also stay away on average 0.5 mm, the important thing is that the surfaces are of excellent quality (without flexo points, conical fittings where they serve, and transitions between surfaces made as a rule of art).

waiting for your news, I cordially greet you.
p.s.: say hello to me eighth.

I spoke of range in the sense that I can have the surfaces with the same quality as the original ones (follow the stl but do not change the original curvature for the class surfaces with autamatic mapping of the distance expressed in millimeters where it tells you how close you are) until you get to attack me where you do not hold ccon of the quality of the surfaces then it is the user who decides.
I fully agree that if I attack in an adhering manner then it is not necessary because in that case you have a group of surfaces that qualitatively is equal to stl.

I would like to point out that it is not a reverse engineering we still have nothing but you have to have the original mathematics without that the module does not need.



However if you want to test for me there are no problems, take into account that this technology has been taken by big car builders like fiat chry to and others where I have no permission to mention.

I can tell you with all certainty that in nx ne catia have this form despite the cad certificates in these companies.
As for the triangles to be imported I don't know what the maximum limit is because today I never happened to import stl where it indicates maximum limit exceeded, I can tell you that I imported molds of whole sides with their door scanned molds without problems, maybe I have slowing down in rotations but then setting schade without ware-frame I also solve this problem.



ps:
just yesterday I finished 330 in fiat would be the new baby maserati
were two doors a c x 2
the problem was to report the superfics over the scan where the outside figure had a quality while the doors, class a, had to remain of quality approaching as much as possible to the slate. at the end we arrived at 0.6 compared to 7 mm .

ps:
I will not miss

 

[maxopus]

I spoke of range in the sense that I can have the surfaces with the same quality as the original ones (follow the stl but do not change the original curvature for the class surfaces with autamatic mapping of the distance expressed in millimeters where it tells you how close you are) until you get to attack me where you do not hold ccon of the quality of the surfaces then it is the user who decides.
I fully agree that if I attack in an adhering manner then it is not necessary because in that case you have a group of surfaces that qualitatively is equal to stl.

I would like to point out that it is not a reverse engineering we still have nothing but you have to have the original mathematics without that the module does not need.


However if you want to test for me there are no problems, take into account that this technology has been taken by big car builders like fiat chry to and others where I have no permission to mention.

I can tell you with all certainty that in nx ne catia have this form despite the cad certificates in these companies.
As for the triangles to be imported I don't know what the maximum limit is because today I never happened to import stl where it indicates maximum limit exceeded, I can tell you that I imported molds of whole sides with their door scanned molds without problems, maybe I have slowing down in rotations but then setting schade without ware-frame I also solve this problem.

ps:
I will not miss

ok flavio, then I don't need such an application because I start from scratch, scanning mockups (wood stucco models or urol for those who have money to spend) and realizing the final surfaces.
I do not doubt that fiat uses your solutions but, I know for certain that for reverse real use icem surf (stand-alone without integration in catia).

icem surf has been the head of reverse applications and remains, as far as you know, the reference for all (we talk about a package that costs a sproposito, only at large companies).
ptc bought it a long time ago and brought it equal in the rex module of pro/e.
someone says that the rex module of pro/e is worth 90% of icem and that in the next release the few missing functions will be integrated.
after the "vampirization", ptc returned to the icem market that was purchased by dassault.
Now there is also an internal application with a catia and it is said that in this mode it is a true nail compared to the stand-alone application.

p.s.: who realizes a reverse with scaffoldings of 7 mm is a somaro to hang on the wall with the nails rebattuti realized by marcof

 

[flaviobrio88]

ok flavio, then I don't need such an application because I start from scratch, scanning mockups (wood stucco models or urol for those who have money to spend) and realizing the final surfaces.
I do not doubt that fiat uses your solutions but, I know for certain that for reverse real use icem surf (stand-alone without integration in catia).

max I didn't want you to change your opinion about the cad you use to make king it was just to warn you that among the cad used in this field there are not only those you mentioned, that then you start from 0 or parts from a finished product this does not matter there are users who have issues other than yours and who use other solutions.

In fact, for this reason, in the first message I specified:

omnicad has a tool that allows you to adapt the surfaces of an existing cad above scanning with various options.

is always a reverse that exploits existing surfaces.

Hi.

Maxopus says:

"
p.s.: who realizes a reverse with scaffoldings of 7 mm is a somaro to hang on the wall with the nails rebattuti realized by marcof "

many times only the discharge of negative rays made on board machine to reach 3/4 mm

 

[maxopus]

max I didn't want you to change your opinion about the cad you use to make king it was just to warn you that among the cad used in this field there are not only those you mentioned, that then you start from 0 or parts from a finished product this does not matter there are users who have issues other than yours and who use other solutions.

In fact, for this reason, in the first message I specified:

omnicad has a tool that allows you to adapt the surfaces of an existing cad above scanning with various options.

is always a reverse that exploits existing surfaces.

Hi.

I didn't take it that way, I just wanted to understand the features of your software.
is a reverse adjustment system because it starts from already realized surfaces.
So you can't think of using it starting from a scan, just understand?