onshape

[guyver]

Since no one yet speaks (or so it seems) I open this discussion
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opinions and opinions?
https://www.onshape.com/

from former solidworks developers, the first fully working 3d cad on cloud. works on mac, pc, ipad, iphone and other devices, directly in the web browser. for rendering and other operations use dedicated remote servers

onshape is a 3d cad that is making a lot of talk about itself, for various peculiarities that make it unique in its kind. the system works exclusively via browser and therefore can be used by the web on mac, windows, linux and also by mobile devices (iphone, ipad and soon also android). the “truck” that allows you to exploit the cad directly via the web consists in using computational resources on the cloud: rendering and other operations are not carried out on the user’s machine but on a number of servers of the company. the times required for various operations are extremely reduced, without worrying about the hardware specifications of the machine in use. among the founders of the company there are developers with great experience coming from solidworks, including the company's founder, jon hirschtick (the kernel used is parasolid, the same used in solidworks and siemens nx).

the product is not yet definitive but can be tested by requesting an invitation. functions are already active that allow more people to collaborate on a project and mechanisms of control of versions. supported formats are the most popular formats in the industry (solidworks, pro/engineer, catia, nx, dwg, etc.), including neutral formats such as iges, sat, step, acis, jt, parasolid, dxf, etc., documents, drawings and libraries are stored on the cloud and can be eventually downloaded offline. a constant internet connection is required for operation. the company provides two modes of operation: a plan without limits to 100 dollars per month (about 94 euros) and a free plan with the maximum limit of 5 manageable documents.

Source http://www.macitynet.it/onshape-e-il-primo-vero-cad-3d-che-funziona-sul-cloud/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/uctvd5lusltth8qcd7pl1nqg/videos
[video=youtube;m2nKWBKQQMY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2nkwbkqqmy[/video]

 

[The_Matrix]

Unfortunately at this moment the places for the tests are finished.. .
I tried to sign up for the beta program at the end of February, but I couldn't.
I think it's so cool.

 

[loris_c]

hi everyone, I am your member for a long time now and I am grateful to this forum for how many answers I found (eh, you are someone using the search function )

I can say something about onshape. I know it's a beta but in February I compiled the questionnaire to become a tester and sent me the invitation. I use a free plan. in the feautures & pricing section is that at $0 per month. the most annoying limitation is the limit of 5 active private documents which translates into a combination of up to 4 pieces. otherwise you have to set the job on public and anyone onshape users can use your files and make it a copy.

at the moment for me it is an interesting tool but some things I did not find them or I couldn't do them (I dedicated very little) for example

-not has / did not find sheet metal tools ..
-not has / did not find advanced tools for surfaces
- they say that it natively reads solidworks files, ok but in the files I pulled on I do not read the features. then you lose the function shaft. I have not yet tried to save from onshape in solidworks format.
-does not allow me to configure tools in onshape for example a tablet but it transposes the configuration from the so. So let's see if I explain to myself the solidworks board and use. for onshape the tablet you have to configure it generically for windows or you can set it with a specific configuration for your browser (but you do not make the same use on a browser or on a cad3d) . the developers told me that they took note.
- has no macro
- has no functions for threaded holes
- welded axial management
- leave at the table

are implemented instead
-schizzi (very similar to solidworks)
-extrusions, cuts, solid operations (summ, difference etc.) sweep, spirals and all basic features to build mechanical parts. (no welded, no carpentry, no tubular, no routing, piping)
-export in classic formats
-repetitions for drag along a edge
-some good constraints in assemblies

of interesting would have a lot of functions for the remote teamwork but I didn't just look at them, I haven't tried them yet. for me that I deal with mechanical assemblies and then of shells and carpenters with a certain complexity of forms and developments.. is still back in development. my impression is that the road is the right one, but the limits imposed by the cloud and the servers on which then most calculations are performed to "move" our assemblies via browser have in fact limited many features that instead I use to handle on solidworks. I'll keep an eye on it, and I'll keep trying when, I have a list of things to do.
if you would like to ask or suggest evidence posted here. I'll be happy to answer you.

 

[The_Matrix]

Hello, loris.
First of all thank you... illuminating review.
definitely onshape read/write files swx... but without features history.
It's something everyone does.
then once you read as brep you have to ride it with the functions of synchronous technology (parlando stile nx).

we have more intelligent direct translators carrying feature... but, honestly, I don't do almost anything.. .
the mechanical components can change them easily by acting on the geometry.
what our "intelligent" translators instead have are the associative tables to the 3d and the assemblies constraint... That's really interesting.

on the lacks of functionality, I think they are related to the fact that it is a v0... plates etc will surely come.
I don't think they're limited by cloud architecture.

I am interested in understanding the performance of both calculation and graphics... .
Unfortunately I see that you have done a really basic robe, so difficult to give judgments both on the recalculations and on the 3d handling.

thanks again and keep us updated on progress... (I unfortunately couldn't get into the tester's knot... He told me to try again, but I don't have time now).

 

[loris_c]

Ciau,
therefore for the first part of your answer: I'm not an expert but I guessed. remains the fact that a user like me opens, imports and changes. if you do not find the features stop the holes and butterflies (as my old colleague said). If he's in a hurry, he's in a hurry.
I'm sure that depends on the fact that they're in vo, even for the puts on the table in the videos say they will come soon, however if one makes a paid plan and does not find these features it is difficult to use it with productivity, so better to say it.

for the second part, you should understand what proof you would like to do, for example a set with how many components and what complexity. I haven't spent much time on this type of evidence, but I can charge something more complex and see if it slows down. we say it would take an order of magnitude so that we select something... as soon as I have time I search through public files of onshape and put some screens, maybe we find something to try.

ps the screens I flew them this morning so much for, are not indicative of the tests made

 

[The_Matrix]

you can't think that onshape = solidworks.. .
data migration does not even work between 2 different wordprocessors, shown between 2 cad.
you will always have input and output of files without features.

I would like to see a minimally complex assembly, which I know... 2/300 unique components, see that performance has adding components and assemblies... change a component and see how to move others... small movements... etc.

 

[loris_c]

being a team born of sldw developers I had hopes about it, especially related to the recognition of certain features. But that's all right for now. I had edited the message above adding:

"I'm sure that depends on the fact that they are in vo, even for the puts on the table in the videos say they will come soon, however if one makes a paid plan and does not find these features it is difficult to use it with productivity, so better to say it. "

hmm for your test I will see how to do, there is always the limit of 5 private or unlimited public components.

 

[cacciatorino]

for the second part, you should understand what proof you would like to do, for example a set with how many components and what complexity. I haven't spent much time on this type of evidence, but I can charge something more complex and see if it slows down. we say it would take an order of magnitude so that we select something... as soon as I have time I search through public files of onshape and put some screens, maybe we find something to try.

I would like to see a minimally complex assembly, which I know... 2/300 unique components, see that performance has adding components and assemblies... change a component and see how to move others... small movements... etc.

I don't think being in the cloud or local changes anything, but that everything is required to the power of the workstation on which the calculation is being performed.

If you have ever tried to use a cad with teamviewer or remote desktop or vnc on a normal adsl line I think you'll already have an idea of usability or not of a remote system.

 

[The_Matrix]

I don't think being in the cloud or local changes anything, but that everything is required to the power of the workstation on which the calculation is being performed.

If you have ever tried to use a cad with teamviewer or remote desktop or vnc on a normal adsl line I think you'll already have an idea of usability or not of a remote system.

remote desktop or teamviewer, assumes that you have something installed locally, which here is not...
we for example have teamcenter application sharing... if you install the client on the remote then it is quite fast (actually pass only the display commands, while the rendering calculation is done by the local card), but if you use that 100% web... I would say it is almost unusable. . .
I wanted to understand if, for example, onshape uses webgl, as I saw using from the new web client of tc.

 

[loris_c]

Yes, use webgl. there is a help document entitled "graphics performance recommendations" that suggests using webgl, in chrome is automatic (if the video card supports them), for safari and firefox suggests how to enable them.
among the tested and supported browsers there are safari, firefox, chrome and opera (just explorer there is)

 

[vespa_83]

I join this discussion to stay up to date. Now you can activate a free plan, but all files are public and this disincentive quite a lot, I would be content with only 3 private files.

 

[drilltempt]

regarding the difficulty of controlling views, I don't think being in the cloud or local makes the difference; rather, it depends on the processing capacity of the workstation that performs the calculation.

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