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Good afternoon to all! !

I find myself again asking for information about the sw-excel coupling.
in particular I would like to attach to a set a table of excels that pilots the dimensions of the parts that compose it.
is it possible to do it or do I have to create a table for each part and then update the axieme?

Thank you in advance!
 
the most convenient way of acting in my opinion is to check with table excel the skeleton contained in the axieme on which to build the parts. in this way the control is directed only on the assieme and indirectly govern the parties.
I do not think it is possible to govern directly with a table excel the quotas of the parts from the axieme, but it is possible to bind the parts to equations contained in the axieme; in practice defining certain parameters between the equations of the axieme, then within the parts it is possible to refer to them during the compilation of the equations.
 
the most convenient way of acting in my opinion is to check with table excel the skeleton contained in the axieme on which to build the parts. in this way the control is directed only on the assieme and indirectly govern the parties.
I do not think it is possible to govern directly with a table excel the quotas of the parts from the axieme, but it is possible to bind the parts to equations contained in the axieme; in practice defining certain parameters between the equations of the axieme, then within the parts it is possible to refer to them during the compilation of the equations.
I would say that michele already said everything!:finger:
 
I was afraid that the answer would be this...
Unfortunately piloting a layout and hooking up the next equations does not solve my problems. . .

I'll assess the possibility of making a configurator home. . .
Do you know anything about driveworks?
 
I was afraid that the answer would be this...
Unfortunately piloting a layout and hooking up the next equations does not solve my problems. . .

I'll assess the possibility of making a configurator home. . .
Do you know anything about driveworks?
I know it exists and nothing more...
 
I know it exists and nothing more...
Hello

I think the need to parameterize the pieces in the assemblies for certain processes is very felt. in carpentry by making brackets, panels, one could build standard models that recalled in the various appropriately renamed assemblies, should in my opinion be able to take certain quotas, established a priori, from values given in the axieme.
how does the family table work?
Of course this would cut your legs a little bit to the various configurators.
 
Maybe I'm going to say a huge nonsense because I only remember that he was talking about it in a presentation, but what you're referring to is no longer close to using smart components?
In any case it also happens to us to use carpentry details always equal as shape but of different size, to be configured from time to time in the axieme. I think a good starting point comes from how they shape the parts.
For example, if a certain u sheet, with always the same size is made vary only in length (extrusion), you can carry the extrusion to a plan created specifically in the part. when you bring the u into the axieme you redefine the plan by making it correspond to the appropriate size.. .
this is just an example, quite stupid and perhaps not very comfortable but allows the reuse of the parts.. .
 
acute observation. . .
However the problem is not trivial solution if the piece changes orientation in the axieme and consequently changes the equations that drive extrusion. . .
 
Hello

I think the need to parameterize the pieces in the assemblies for certain processes is very felt. in carpentry by making brackets, panels, one could build standard models that recalled in the various appropriately renamed assemblies, should in my opinion be able to take certain quotas, established a priori, from values given in the axieme.
how does the family table work?
Of course this would cut your legs a little bit to the various configurators.
I have a lot of document models that I go to parameterize inside the axiemas by leaning on the skeletons. attention because I do not talk about the layout and functions connected to the layout but of parts or assemblies which can contain anything useful to me to make the elements dialogue well. I have never used excel sheets to fly the elements, I tried but I prefer to act directly on the odds of a sketch and see in real time geometric change. at the end is like doing a 2d or 3d study to reuse to aggregate the elements between them.
in some cases this technique does not bring benefits in terms of time but undoubtedly leads to a drastic reduction of errors in design.
to return to the topic it is possible to parameterize a small group and acting on the skeletons it is possible to treat a subassieme as if it were a part with the total guarantee that the changes on the parts follow the skeleton without giving problems.
proe family are a bit like the data tables of swx, in principle the concept is the same. I used them and are easier to do, it seems strange but, in this case, the interface of proe is easier and intuitive than that of swx, and allow a more capillary management of information. proe obliges you to use family to manage variants and if this may appear as a waste of time for a swx user, it prevents you from making bulk configurations of which then you can lose traces.
When family models are put on the table, the proe report tables to show variants are extremely flexible and crossing filters you can really do nice things. The insertion of filters is not as intuitive as the creation of the family as you have to insert hand strings. the same applies to the creation of tables with repetition regions that are compiled in a parametric way.
in this swx is a little too sharp and those who use proe find it a poor tool, but with the family we do not solve the problem object of the discussion, or better, we solve it to the same extent as it is resolved with the data tables.
Maybe I'm going to say a huge nonsense because I only remember that he was talking about it in a presentation, but what you're referring to is no longer close to using smart components?
In any case it also happens to us to use carpentry details always equal as shape but of different size, to be configured from time to time in the axieme. I think a good starting point comes from how they shape the parts.
For example, if a certain u sheet, with always the same size is made vary only in length (extrusion), you can carry the extrusion to a plan created specifically in the part. when you bring the u into the axieme you redefine the plan by making it correspond to the appropriate size.. .
this is just an example, quite stupid and perhaps not very comfortable but allows the reuse of the parts.. .
I see the intelligent components as an ease for those who use so many times an object and with these I would recreate the functions and positions necessary for the assembly of this object on your whole in a completely automatic way.
 
Hello

I think the need to parameterize the pieces in the assemblies for certain processes is very felt. in carpentry by making brackets, panels, one could build standard models that recalled in the various appropriately renamed assemblies, should in my opinion be able to take certain quotas, established a priori, from values given in the axieme.
how does the family table work?
Of course this would cut your legs a little bit to the various configurators.
I also often operate in this way and use a cloning command of my pdm and subsequently modify the part / together cloned.
Basically, starting from a set similar to what I should get, they first clone the axieme and then one to one the elements to change. as I clone the elements I change them as I wish.
in this way the old together is not touched and the new born in very good times.
the management of these operations varies according to how the aid was created and depending on the presence of external references or not it is necessary to differentiate the proceedings.
For example, if they clone a set led by a skeleton, I must clone the axieme, all the elements that will be changed, fix external references (one click) and then change the skeleton where necessary.
at this point when I open my new together I see everything perfectly updated.
 
I also often operate in this way and use a cloning command of my pdm and subsequently modify the part / together cloned.
Basically, starting from a set similar to what I should get, they first clone the axieme and then one to one the elements to change. as I clone the elements I change them as I wish.
in this way the old together is not touched and the new born in very good times.
the management of these operations varies according to how the aid was created and depending on the presence of external references or not it is necessary to differentiate the proceedings.
I do not have a pdm use sw explorer and after a while I have to say that in his little one allows you to do so much already.

For example, if they clone a set led by a skeleton, I must clone the axieme, all the elements that will be changed, fix external references (one click) and then change the skeleton where necessary.
at this point when I open my new together I see everything perfectly updated.
I do not follow this procedure simply because at the beginning that I used sw not having done so many courses, before I understood it a little, external references frightened me so much, I preferred to have quotas managed from tables, from equations they made me feel more quiet said this, I still think it a great system.
In my opinion, for example, if the "global variables" that still allow within a part, to hook or parameterize any quota, had a flag through which, you could decide whether to keep it inside the part, or to hook it to the outside, if it was set to the outside, when I insert this part into a set should be automatically reported in the folder equations of the assemblies.
then hooking it to any value of the axieme would be a game.

I hope I wasn't so twisted.
 
an external reference can be a coincidence of a split point of the part on a point of another part, etc... how can you govern and/or manipulate such information with flags?
 
a flag no, but the connection of values yes.
the problem is that a quota in one part can be connected only with parameters of the part and not of the assieme; from time to time connect the parameter of the part to the relative of the axieme!
 
that I know the quotas of a part can be connected to the assemblies (unfortunately
only with equations... )
not by chance the post was born to ask if this game could be done even by exploiting excel.
 
Hello!

the system works quietly also the network: the important thing is to respect links between excel and sw files by inserting the right network addresses!
 
Hello everyone,
As the debate is old, I ask: has a solution found that allows to insert a data table in a set and to recall the quotas of the parts that compose it?
My need is to create a standard set and to be able to change only a few odds through an excel table. is it worth it or suggest other roads?
in the company where I work are evaluating the purchase of tacton works, but they would like to verify the possibility of parameterizing some elements even with solidworks.
thanks in advance for the answer,
Andrea
 
with solidworks in table excel you can parameterize each quota. mal that go put some variables together master that fly the parts and a master excel in combination that commands the master set variables.
However you can do everything.
 

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