pirate software blackmail

[gege_67]

Good evening I hope it's the right place to expose this problem. a dear friend of mine has a company that sells products x construction, his nephew (student in a mechanical institution) to his unknowing installed on a business laptop of the grandfather x try to draw a mechanical piece x a school project a mechanical software downloaded from the network. about a month ago he received a call from an employee of the company owner of the program that announced to my friend that he was in possession and to use an unsigned program (my friend fell from the pear because he had no idea what it was about) at this point asked the interlocutor to send her an email with the explanation of the issue. meanwhile he asked his grandchildren who had installed this program and at this point he found the culprit asking his nephew to uninstall the program immediately. after a few days he received the email from the company. in the email were present of the company's pc and ip codes (he asked the consultant who follows the company's computers that confirmed that they correspond to the laptop and company address) and at the bottom of the email the request of the purchase of the program x a value of about 50000€ or the company reserves to proceed x legal routes. My friend explained that the program was installed by his nephew on the company computer and that he had already provided to remove that program, but to the owner company does not care, he explained that of this program does not know what to do with it the only program they use and an accounting program. Does my friend have to buy that program? Is it normal for a company to enter your computer without asking for permission? Thank you.

 

[re_solidworks]

Good evening I hope it's the right place to expose this problem. a dear friend of mine has a company that sells products x construction, his nephew (student in a mechanical institution) to his unknowing installed on a business laptop of the grandfather x try to draw a mechanical piece x a school project a mechanical software downloaded from the network. about a month ago he received a call from an employee of the company owner of the program that announced to my friend that he was in possession and to use an unsigned program (my friend fell from the pear because he had no idea what it was about) at this point asked the interlocutor to send her an email with the explanation of the issue. meanwhile he asked his grandchildren who had installed this program and at this point he found the culprit asking his nephew to uninstall the program immediately. after a few days he received the email from the company. in the email were present of the company's pc and ip codes (he asked the consultant who follows the company's computers that confirmed that they correspond to the laptop and company address) and at the bottom of the email the request of the purchase of the program x a value of about 50000€ or the company reserves to proceed x legal routes. My friend explained that the program was installed by his nephew on the company computer and that he had already provided to remove that program, but to the owner company does not care, he explained that of this program does not know what to do with it the only program they use and an accounting program. Does my friend have to buy that program? Is it normal for a company to enter your computer without asking for permission? Thank you.

the company does not enter your pc, installing the software is your pc that sends the usage data to the company. from how much I know these reports leave if the use has been continued for a different time and not a few hours. in Italy there are too many furbi and their way to make massacre the market at the expense of those who behave well. But you know how many times I've been told that I'm too dear to people who don't even have an idea of what the equipment costs to design? as the state does not control and the laws are not respected the software house are equipped. pirate software should not be installed, point and end. I use software also for private use and if I can afford to purchase it, otherwise I see to fold on less performing but free solutions. I'll be square, but that sounds right to me.

 

[cacciatorino]

Good evening I hope it's the right place to expose this problem. a dear friend of mine has a company that sells products x construction, his nephew (student in a mechanical institution) to his unknowing installed on a business laptop of the grandfather x try to draw a mechanical piece x a school project a mechanical software downloaded from the network. about a month ago he received a call from an employee of the company owner of the program that announced to my friend that he was in possession and to use an unsigned program (my friend fell from the pear because he had no idea what it was about) at this point asked the interlocutor to send her an email with the explanation of the issue. meanwhile he asked his grandchildren who had installed this program and at this point he found the culprit asking his nephew to uninstall the program immediately. after a few days he received the email from the company. in the email were present of the company's pc and ip codes (he asked the consultant who follows the company's computers that confirmed that they correspond to the laptop and company address) and at the bottom of the email the request of the purchase of the program x a value of about 50000€ or the company reserves to proceed x legal routes. My friend explained that the program was installed by his nephew on the company computer and that he had already provided to remove that program, but to the owner company does not care, he explained that of this program does not know what to do with it the only program they use and an accounting program. Does my friend have to buy that program? Is it normal for a company to enter your computer without asking for permission? Thank you.

to read here' on the forum usually ask to buy the full suite (the 50,000 proposed) but then they happen much less, if you start dealing. the alternative I think is to make the ostrich and make him do the slammed to ask the judiciary a search at the company headquarters. In your case, I think they wouldn't find anything, as I don't think that project files were saved on the corporate network.
i.e., not being the software used for profit, I am not sure that there is the case of crime.

 

[rinato]

...the alternative I think is to do the ostrich and make him do the slammed to ask the judiciary a search at the company headquarters. In your case, I think they wouldn't find anything, as I don't think that project files were saved on the corporate network.
i.e., not being the software used for profit, I am not sure that there is the case of crime.

I allow myself to point out that "invite" to the judiciary to perform a search, it means to go into the house or the postal police in the best case, or the gdf. if the first, perhaps, stop at the pirated sw in question, the gdf has the long eye for many other things. Sorry to say, but the owner risks pulling the hose on his feet, and on this account the commercials of the software-house in question. I would invite the latter in place, to talk to fours and to make the situation understand, 'that with the only exchange of cards the tone risks only to dress up and there is no longer a spider from the hole.
of course a figure with 4 zeros makes no sense, especially if the pirated sw, was actually released by the same owners to make known the product to the potential future users (practice admitted by a commercial, at the edge of an openhouse, for years back... ).

if I don't remember badly, but you have to look, there was also a favorable pronunciation of the cassation regarding personal use of pirated commercial sw. About ten years ago. that in Italy only applies to the particular cause under consideration, however, if still valid as an address, it is still a card to play.

 

[tecnico_plast]

mi sa di truffa.

 

[drake]

It is not at all a scam, the problem is there and how. It is also the reason why the software houses are sending the verification of corporate networks with licenses owned. in particular autodesk does so and I am aware of it. He's been talking about it here in the forum.

 

[tecnico_plast]

Yes, if we talk about the great software house.
but around there are also "free" programs that are then used to blackmail the user, or to install trojans.
He understood something similar to my acquaintance, who several years ago had installed a free photo editing software, at the expiration of the trial period, instead of disabling the license, they contacted him via email to ask him for a payment of some ten dollars.
probably the case in this post is quite different.

 

[drake]

Of course when, unfortunately, you come across such little sympathetic episodes it is good to check carefully and assess whether it is a scam or not. However, I hope the gege will let us know the developments.

 

[PierArg]

mi sa di truffa.

no, this is often the case.
instead of proceeding by legal means they force you to buy packages.

 

[tecnico_plast]

no, this is often the case.
instead of proceeding by legal means they force you to buy packages.

I don't think they can force you, legally I mean.
Of course, it's a way to scare you, on thousands of cases. Someone catches him.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

It is not at all a scam, the problem is there and how. It is also the reason why the software houses are sending the verification of corporate networks with licenses owned. in particular autodesk does so and I am aware of it. He's been talking about it here in the forum.

I didn't understand what the software houses were doing, especially self-desk.
we have 2 product design suites but controls we never had.

 

[drake]

are asking them to communicate to them all data of the company network and all licenses intestate. If you haven't received anything, don't worry. If you receive, do what they say. usually start with email and then write the paper without recommended. I stopped at that level, I don't know after that they would do if you don't answer. thought it was a scam, but at the last request we heard a dealer and confirmed that it is not at all a scam, instead of responding as soon as possible. I don't think it's the case to see any legal developments, even if the ways of their request leave very perplexed. Let us remember that they have the knife on the side of the handle... He also spoke about it in the forum.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

surely if we receive something we will respond, also because we have two licenses in regularly updated subscriptions.
what I don't understand is what they require, they know very well the situation of each company.
It's true that they contacted us a long time ago to turn an old autocad license into a subscription.
It counts that, having gone away the people who were there before in ut, we didn't even know we had it.
so why ask for data?
Do they hope that someone who has a pirate license is so "theft" to tell him?

 

[drake]

because I think they want to tie licenses to corporate networks or Internet nodes officially. In reality they know already, but perhaps, I say maybe x that I'm not sure, so they have the possibility of control with the data provided by the customers, not "presi" secretly. Once they have the data, at the time that "the tricks" connect.....

 

[cacciatorino]

but the working hours necessary to answer the questionnaire then autodesk pays you?

 

[drake]

but the working hours necessary to answer the questionnaire then autodesk pays you?

Yeah, you know what they say in our parts.

 

[rinato]

I repeat this discussion only because I can confirm that the software-house do just the type of communications reported by the user who opened the discussion.
a friend, commercial in the molds sector, has in turn friendships in a sw-h and told me in the margins of more serious speeches than now, the latter, are made alive through lawyers with the mountain hours exploited by the craccade license or similar and present the account in via "resolutive". Otherwise the lawyers do the artillery fund.
Of course there is still a way to crash that particular sw and remain anonymous, but it is increasingly laborious. not that I support the practice, indeed: we only paid licenses, and tightening the belt...
Say hi.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

Finally it seems that the famous autodesk control has arrived.
However, it seems different from how you described it, a letter came in which it is said that our licenses could be used in a non-legal way and that they will contact us within 7 days.
to me it seems strange as what, we have 2 subscriptions regularly maintained. One of the two is not even used.
did they tell you this way?

 

[radio]

but the working hours necessary to answer the questionnaire then autodesk pays you?

unfortunately it is not only autodesk that wastes time; I just got there (another time) an email from microsoft with the request of a sam activity (software asset management).
a cabbage Englishmanism to say that we have to count all licenses of microsoft products, indentify all its n.e. serial (always that can find them all, e.g., for cal will be a mess) and declare on what machine is installed what.
we have more than 50 pcs in the company, more relative servers, to do everything will take me 3-4 days of work, not joke!
the ridiculous and tragic thing at the same time is that we have just finished renewing the park machines, in 2 years we have replaced all pcs (and therefore all I know), and only this month we have purchased 25 office packages 2016, some of which still to install because the procedures to do so are so farraginous and Byzantine, that we prefer to resort to external staff not to waste too much time.
microsoft thanks us this way.
and think that I had strongly recommended to let everyone pass to openoffice, but no, we stay with ms office because it is better! :Mother:

p.s. I forgot, it is absolutely necessary to answer within 2 weeks, otherwise... I guess nothing happens, even because it will take me a month to find the time to do it!

 

[TAURUS77]

unfortunately it is not only autodesk that wastes time; I just got there (another time) an email from microsoft with the request of a sam activity (software asset management).
a cabbage Englishmanism to say that we have to count all licenses of microsoft products, indentify all its n.e. serial (always that can find them all, e.g., for cal will be a mess) and declare on what machine is installed what.
we have more than 50 pcs in the company, more relative servers, to do everything will take me 3-4 days of work, not joke!
the ridiculous and tragic thing at the same time is that we have just finished renewing the park machines, in 2 years we have replaced all pcs (and therefore all I know), and only this month we have purchased 25 office packages 2016, some of which still to install because the procedures to do so are so farraginous and Byzantine, that we prefer to resort to external staff not to waste too much time.
microsoft thanks us this way.
and think that I had strongly recommended to let everyone pass to openoffice, but no, we stay with ms office because it is better! :Mother:

p.s. I forgot, it is absolutely necessary to answer within 2 weeks, otherwise... I guess nothing happens, even because it will take me a month to find the time to do it!

if you don't start slowly switching to open source or free software they will never lower the crest because without realizing it we paved their way and made signs.