problem with autocad that in 3d goes to snaps or freezes

[antog89]

in the office (we use only catia) we have pictures in fact.
autocad, I turn from god on an integrated 256mb in all honesty, sure with slightly more full-bodied models abandons me but any high-end vga (series 7 nvidia to say) and updated drivers, pulls you up the world with autocad(and rhino and others).
rather the configuration all leaves me puzzled.

the i7 is 3rd generation, to that figure you took the 4th generation. the k version is for overclocking. Do you overclock?
I see the ssd. This is good... or bad... have you verified that it is fully compatible with the motherboard chipset? it is not uncommon to see whole I know suffering from freeze because of the ssd (or of driver not updated)
the picture bho perhaps it was better to turn to the offer radeon with gpgpu etc...
that heatsink is completely wasted if you do not make oc of a certain level.. and also after a tot of time the performance drops. .
for the wings, now I do not have the energy consumption of the picture but 860w unless you do sli and oc you will never use them, and the certification platinum is exaggerated, a gold goes already well.
64gb of ram? for autocad.....? with latenze cl11 then... 16gb cl9 I thought they were better and just... wanting to exaggerate 32 but 64? bho..
hard disk then caviar green (to save), at least one black or red that are indicated for workstations as they have a low probability of breaking and loss of data (found in an office).
I don't understand the choice of the motherboard. a h87 or z87 chipset if you want to make oc was better then the sabertooth is just a waste of money. asus z87 pro or h87 and away.
I would have put a dual sli or quad sli without picture but with gtx also. or better crossfirex with radeon. but for autocad, perhaps it is excessive, although I do not know how heavy can be complex projects on autocad.

it is not enough "to update to the latest version of everything" to be done with a minimum of criterion. the computers we have in the office are very normal with vga picture, and the caia files are sometimes from 1.5gb...

However, mine is a very fast analysis. .

 

[lokodo]

then the small dwg has few objects but the more complex one has 574.000!!! This is why I ask for confirmation if the geforce gxt 690 is really more suitable than the present 2000 picture. Sorry if I stress you but it is very important and I also understand that your are free answers.

 

[doking]

574,000 elements is not just small

 

[enri]

Forget about the 690, it is a double gpu that autocad does not exploit, in fact it is not the double fastest of the 680, but only a little, go to know why. look at the performance in relation to the price. It is evident that the best choice sian the gtx 680, since it is slightly slower than the titan that costs almost three times more. find it less than 300 euros, the 580 is old. indeed now the 680 is called gtx 770, an updated version, but since this is a mined field, you never know how a bench will end, I recommend you stay on 680, never be that for some recounted reason, the new, with renewed firmware, does not go like the old. :d. the benefits as well are those.
two things, on autocad with all those objects, I challenge that the 2000 picture goes to snaps, and 64 giga rams are definitely excessive!
You can do one thing, when you mount the new tab, you go too, if you can, and try to fly the biggest file you work on, and see if there are inconveniences and artifacts, but I don't think they would report them. we always have the right of withdrawal if a test goes wrong, everyone should do so, there would be less surprises.

 

[lokodo]

In fact, I think we will attach the file to try if possible at the time when they test because the pc has 5 days of life. ..basilicata residence and lazio ekey so you can't go there physically...we keep up to date and we'll do it with the 680 which is now called 770 right?

 

[gil]

look 574'000 object are a big set, for my standards. If you are upset with a little complex solids, it is reasonable that the 2000 picture goes into crisis.

I don't know what to do with you, probably bet on high-end gtx, the one that says enri. or I don't know if I spend a lot of money there's a very good picture that can beat the gtx series on directx.

you are in a condition where I don't know what to do with you, I lack experience in your configuration for this warm informed about progress.

 

[doking]

cut the head to the bull and go to gtx titan:wink:

 

[enri]

It is called 770, because the 780 has the upper class gpu like the titan, nvidia makes a mess with the names, however there are also 680, according to me you can take those, or if you can do the test, so to be sure, go directly on the 770.

 

[lokodo]

It is called 770, because the 780 has the upper class gpu like the titan, nvidia makes a mess with the names, however there are also 680, according to me you can take those, or if you can do the test, so to be sure, go directly on the 770.

Well, as soon as the pc comes back to ekey, we'll get the evidence.

 

[lokodo]

vi allego un cad of complex example that please test for these characteristics on your machines:

1) Uninitiated autocad opening speed, ie start autocad directly doubleclicking from the attached project

2) speed at which you can simultaneously select all objects with the mouse.

3) speed/fluidity of zoom in and out

4) Global rotation speed/fluidity of the agglomerate.

our current configuration goes into crisis of the type does not respond/freeze

Imagine if we had to open that from 57,000 objects.

tell me if there are parameters to optimize that you would adopt or already adopted for this file or simply if by yourself is enough your configuration. ( pc has not yet been authorized to return from ekey)

 

[lokodo]

new link to the file I had incorrectly deleted before http://www.divshare.com/download/24730103-f19

 

[gil]

Hi.
Now unfortunately I am using a very old pc is dated. I give you the right results to have a lower limit.
my configuration: intel core 2 duo e6750, 2 gb ram, nvidia geforge 8500gt
to take into account that now I have on autocad lt therefore I had to convert the file you passed me. This does not benefit from performance.

answers
1) 8 seconds
2) 3 seconds
3) If I take a click to the mouse wheel I have to wait 2 seconds before the model executes the command and is ready again. zoom is very slow.
4) this pc mounts autocad lt 2004, the orbit command is not there. There is the assonometric view command, it is not exactly the same thing, comunuqe puts about 1, 2 seconds to change sight.

 

[doking]

I with autocad 2014, i7 3770, 16gb of ram and integrated video card for a shared memory of 1696 mb, struggles to open it (30sec)not crash but izommando to every clik of wheel I have to wait a 10sec, idem for rotation, if step in wireframe obviously is fluid

 

[gil]

the file is set with "shaded" view if you use the conceptual with only lines the speed improves a lot.

I tried to use the autodesk's "dwg true view 2014" free program. results are worse than with autocad 2004. the orbit can be done, but it is very slow, during the transaction many objects disappear in finite rotation with a nice little patience.

 

[lokodo]

I mean, we're just being chased then but how is it possible? You tell me how to activate the "conceptual view"? (I repeat that I do as a spolae and that having the pc I at home before having to do it back for laggo assistance in giving your answers to professionals who use the program between you and the studio I am not very experienced) wireframe what is it? as you set. Thanks again for the valuable contribution. but what do you think makes a configuration like this with this file?

 

[doking]

in the "view" shovel try all the views
Wireframe view shows only the main lines of the model

 

[Tristan]

1) Uninitiated autocad opening speed, ie start autocad directly doubleclicking from the attached project

120 sec.

2) speed at which you can simultaneously select all objects with the mouse.

50 sec.

3) speed/fluidity of zoom in and out

2-3 sec. in shady/realistic. better in wireframe.

4) Global rotation speed/fluidity of the agglomerate.

depends on display style and if activated or less adaptive quality reduction. with wireframe pretty smooth.

system:
intel core2 quad q9400 2.66ghz
4 gb ram
nvidia picture 600 1024 mb
win7 x64

however this is certainly not a "simple dwg"; we talk more than 3500 components! You want mine? with autocad you will never manage similar files smoothly. is not structured to do this...

 

[lokodo]

thanks tristan for the contribution!

 

[enri]

but you have used all cards much worse than the 2000 picture. If someone tries with a gtx680 or a titan, I bet the file becomes fluid. :

 

[Tristan]

look enri, I think even with a gtx you don't solve much.... yes, it will always be better than a 600 picture but the file you saw? It's not a walk.. .