program for cutting armor bars

[Fefo84]

Good morning to all,

I am a geometra who works abroad at a construction company of great works and I work to provide technical services for the yard and various processing.
I would need to know if there is a program or a lisp for autocad that allows to specify (maybe even graphically) the cutting of the iron bars of various diameters, following the specific needle board, so as not to have useless iron waste. it would be great if this "calcle" of cutting of the bars would go to arm automatically with any kind of modification that is attached to the needle and then to the iron board.
the goal, if possible, would be to implement the design of the needles with a cutting pattern of the bars.

Thank you in advance for your kind attention and availability.

 

[Tristan]

in autocad? I see it very hard...
already it would be difficult to make him understand that a line is a tondino of a certain diameter, I do not want to imagine how an automatic calculation would be possible to every modification made to the bars.
I hope for you to be denied

 

[Fefo84]

in autocad? I see it very hard...
already it would be difficult to make him understand that a line is a tondino of a certain diameter, I do not want to imagine how an automatic calculation would be possible to every modification made to the bars.
I hope for you to be denied

That's why I asked you if there was anything. I ask regarding the cad to facilitate as much as possible various boys who do not know how to use other programs, but if there were any way with some other specific program etc., they are all ears

 

[Cristallo]

in absolute sincerity the question I did not understand.
The designer gives you a distinct iron. iron diameter x, total length y bent in some specific points. What do you change?
an integral part of the bar is the point where it overlaps to another, or you want to tell me that you go overboard the bars in the lower halfway of a beam, if this makes you recover 1ml of bar?
the optimization work (if on single bars 6-12m) must make the designer, if he is a designer at least discreet.
but lately many turn to the wreaths that bend and cut from continuous rolls, so the rust is practically zero...
Would you like to know if cutting a long tot bar from a 12m the remaining part could serve you for another shape?
Let us understand better.

 

[Fefo84]

in absolute sincerity the question I did not understand.
The designer gives you a distinct iron. iron diameter x, total length y bent in some specific points. What do you change?
an integral part of the bar is the point where it overlaps to another, or you want to tell me that you go overboard the bars in the lower halfway of a beam, if this makes you recover 1ml of bar?
the optimization work (if on single bars 6-12m) must make the designer, if he is a designer at least discreet.
but lately many turn to the wreaths that bend and cut from continuous rolls, so the rust is practically zero...
Would you like to know if cutting a long tot bar from a 12m the remaining part could serve you for another shape?
Let us understand better.

the designer sends us the iron boards, which we consider our working needs (lift, etc.). what I would like to get is an automatic schematic processing system to cut the bars from 12 m, taking into account the iron board, so as not to have any kind of waste. we here have an area where we put the iron and we cut it to send it to the yard and put it in operation, but many times it happens that cutting a high quantity of iron without a detailed scheme (motive of my request) there is a large amount of unusable iron. for this reason we would very comfortable a system that, I take into account the various ferries of the iron board, which also in schematic way indicate the lengths to cut of the 12m bars so as not to do, or at least limit as much as possible, waste of material. Now I don't know if maybe the thing is solved with a lisp or if maybe there is a program that allows to do this.

 

[Cristallo]

To answer your question, I don't think there's such a lisp.

in all cases I think it is easier to create areas with the "discard lengths", of the type I cut a bar of 12m to 7,90, the discard I will put it in the area 4m, so that when it happens the iron l=3,20 I go directly to look for if I have a bar in the area 4m, before cutting a new 12.

and it would also be enough to have limited areas, in the sense that for example, considering that the overlap for a 16 is about 90cm, a 2m long discard of a ø16 you can hardly reuse it. from 2,50 a ø16 is pure waste, unless you have special hooks, moncons, brackets.. .

 

[cad3d]

I did a quick search and jumped out this https://www.schnell.it/it/prodotti/...a-gestione-degli-ordini-di-produzione-optimo/

 

[Legs]

there are several programs for the management of bars in autocad.
I honestly don't know if they do what you want.
I remember these names: emilisp (www.emicad.it) e autoca (http://www.auto-ca.com)
then if I don't remember badly graitec continues to develop a program that doesn't need autocad for the design of the bars.
there is also revit that should allow to draw the needles and manage the distinct cutting (I don’t know if it is a specific version of revit).
also allplan has the possibility to manage the irons.
in the application store for bricscad (compatible with autocad) I also found Armacad (https://www.bricsys.com/applications?site=it-it).
In short, try to see if there is something useful.

 

[Fefo84]

thank you very much to all for the answers and for your availability.

 

[x11start]

the word to search for something on the net is "nesting": generally this concerns the optimization of cutting of sheets or wood panels (very more complex than iron bars); but it is also used for this last purpose, so it is easy for you to find some free software that suits you.

Free Nesting Software Downloads

Nesting Software software free downloads and reviews at WinSite. Free Nesting Software Shareware and Freeware.

nesting-software.winsite.com

 

[Fefo84]

the word to search for something on the net is "nesting": generally this concerns the optimization of cutting of sheets or wood panels (very more complex than iron bars); but it is also used for this last purpose, so it is easy for you to find some free software that suits you.

Free Nesting Software Downloads

Nesting Software software free downloads and reviews at WinSite. Free Nesting Software Shareware and Freeware.

nesting-software.winsite.com

Thank you very much, I will follow your advice.