resources for professional/didactic update online

[Juzo Okita]

good evening to all members of cad3d

I would like to compare with all of you on a topic I believe in the coming years will play a very important role in our working life: Online training
we all, who more than not, are accustomed to the continuous updating of our skills but in many cases the finding of the refresher courses is not so simple (especially for those who do not have behind a company that invests in training) and in some cases the offer is unclear or at least doubtful authoritative.
at least this is my personal experience of mechanical designer coming from companies that if they can spend safely do not spend to train technicians leaving on the shoulders of employees such impairments. . .

and it is mainly for this reason that I open this topic, to understand if we can share positive/negative experiences, resources, tips on online teaching and on the refresher courses useful to our training. a common point of gathering information and opinions on these topics could be very useful to reduce search times and perhaps to give visibility to quality resources that deserve to be disclosed.
I believe that the time for this discussion is the right one: the recent lockdown showed to many (especially teachers) the teaching online under a different light and everything does well hope that in the coming months we will see a very interesting development of this reality.

I do not dilute further
What do you think? how do you behave for your professional update?
Have you ever had to look for an update course to address a new job?
do you already have any suggestions of training courses/enters that you want to share or which you want to give an opinion?
I am aware of the fact that, set up in this way, the discussion is perhaps a little too generic but if the argument turns out interesting I am sure you could also structure the discussion more specifically, depending on the sector or topic you want to discuss

I hope that my reflection will be useful and that you will participate in many

Good evening to all

 

[meccanicamg]

I have years to enrich personal notes of teachers, books, everything that is available on the net. I'm counting it from multiple sources, checking it out numerically, and if it comes back, I'll give it to the associate.
training unfortunately do not make it do companies... in fact this forum is rich in information and replaces in some ways the training that someone else should do to technicians.

 

[Juzo Okita]

I have years to enrich personal notes of teachers, books, everything that is available on the net. I'm counting it from multiple sources, checking it out numerically, and if it comes back, I'll give it to the associate.
training unfortunately do not make it do companies... in fact this forum is rich in information and replaces in some ways the training that someone else should do to technicians.

this is the point, the update is tiring, very "do it yourself" and, I add, little recognizable, that is it is very difficult to get a title, any certificate to add to the resume and certify the growth of the acquired skills.

a virtuous example from this point of view according to me are the mooc of the Milan Polytechnic, I believe the best that I have happened to follow, organized in an excellent way, on a complete and very simple platform to exploit, well structured with so much release of certificate of final participation
polytechnic of milan - pok

 

[cad3d]

in these weeks I am working to broaden the cad3d.it services to subscribers, in particular I am focused on developing an area dedicated to research/employment.

if you want I can install a lms system (learning management system) where to create specific courses managed by members.
using a lms system the information is structured in an organized form and you can decide whether to publish it in free form or for a fee.

 

[Juzo Okita]

perhaps the realization of "our" teaching content is a little premature but surely if the initiative takes root could result an interesting road

 

[brn]

in these weeks I am working to broaden the cad3d.it services to subscribers, in particular I am focused on developing an area dedicated to research/employment.

if you want I can install a lms system (learning management system) where to create specific courses managed by members.
using a lms system the information is structured in an organized form and you can decide whether to publish it in free form or for a fee.

a nose put in cad3d of the services to pay seems to me a little bit with the spirit of the forum of free sharing.

 

[Stan9411]

per @juzo okita I think you and mechanicalmg are talking about the same thing but it gives very different perspectives. .

I have years to enrich personal notes of teachers, books, everything that is available on the net. I'm counting it from multiple sources, checking it out numerically, and if it comes back, I'll give it to the associate.

when he says this, I assume, following for years his interventions on the forum, which refers to all mathematical relations in the design field that are of common use: sizing, verification, cinematic and dynamic formulas, tables and graphs of various design parameters. .

the page of the polimi that you have linked sends, except very few exceptions, to a whole series of seminars on topics much less usual and destined to the formation of more transversal and elastic figures than the "pure" engineer: data science, cloud applications, risk management, finance, business strategy .. I believe that most forum users have nothing to do with this stuff.

As far as I am concerned, I do it, paid by my company, on the tools I use. very matlab use, mathworks often organizes webinars that deepen the use of certain functions packages for specific applications (dynamic simulation of electrical machines, multi-object optimization techniques, code generation methods compiled by simulink models, are those I followed). I feel good and they also release certification.

 

[reggio]

interesting, I listen to this msg (so to be notified to every new contribution

I am afraid, however, that the Prince problem will be the disclosure/sharing of the documents that, I think they will necessarily have to side with the updates ... I think that uni-xyz norm or that video-letion encased by yt, that branch of mechanical manual or other not produced to 100% person.

If there was a formula that would allow to spread without violating, it would be fantastic .. I already have 125 questions in mind

 

[cad3d]

to organize such a thing you could also support a "wiki" platform to install on cad3d.it, see explanation on wikipedia.there are several open source software that you can install on the server, one of which could be mediawiki.

 

[Juzo Okita]

per @juzo okitaI think you and mechanicalmg are talking about the same thing but it gives very different perspectives. .



when he says this, I assume, following for years his interventions on the forum, which refers to all mathematical relations in the design field that are of common use: sizing, verification, cinematic and dynamic formulas, tables and graphs of various design parameters. .

the page of the polimi that you have linked sends, except very few exceptions, to a whole series of seminars on topics much less usual and destined to the formation of more transversal and elastic figures than the "pure" engineer: data science, cloud applications, risk management, finance, business strategy .. I believe that most forum users have nothing to do with this stuff.

As far as I am concerned, I do it, paid by my company, on the tools I use. very matlab use, mathworks often organizes webinars that deepen the use of certain functions packages for specific applications (dynamic simulation of electrical machines, multi-object optimization techniques, code generation methods compiled by simulink models, are those I followed). I feel good and they also release certification.

As for the intervention of mechanicsmg yes, I understood what it meant and it is precisely the purpose that I set myself in the discussion or to share resources, paid or free, positive or negative experiences of online or traditional education so that others can replicate the experience, avoid mistakes or can choose their formative path more quickly
the discussion arises because not many are as lucky as you have the company that organizes the courses, you get the period during the working time to carry out them, you pay them and in the end you certify them as well; usually the designer of the small business is in condition of not knowing one thing, doversela study in the available time (often in the evening) looking online among tens of resources of dubious quality, without certifications or verification of what learned.
the purpose is not so much to make a survey of "how do you do to update" (in fact, knowing that to you do the courses makes me almost a little rosicare :d ) but to say: "look, to study this topic I did so, I found myself well/male, if you need the link/phone number is this"

Among the polyamide mooc for example there are two excellent courses, those of experimental physics and are not for nothing of seminars, contain specific exercises of calculation, and application of the learned concepts. I have followed more than one and besides being made like no other mooc in Italy are also very interesting to follow. on 18 May should start again the course "fundamentals of operations" that I intend to follow

other interesting mook resources are university federico i napoli

 

[Stan9411]

I certainly didn't want to brag with my surgery. I wanted to point out that “formation” is a generic concept: In my case it is about learning functions and potential of a program, for the simple fact that by reading the documentation (manual of thousands of pages) you understand the operation of a matlab function, but not its pros and cons in specific applications. I think it is worth the same for those who follow courses on software cad, fem etc..

If you tell me about courses on theoretical themes (experimental physics), go quietly that nobody pays anything to me .. it is assumed that as an engineer one has these knowledge (I studied 5 years at the polimi, thank you but I do not sit to take notes even if they pay me :d) and if you do not have them or do not remember them, be able to goarsele to look for independently between notes, slides, papers, books, books, books and university thesis. I believe it is the everyday life of the engineer, there is little “method” to share with others. then your point of the mooc will certainly be appreciated.

 

[Juzo Okita]

I certainly didn't want to brag with my surgery. I wanted to point out that “formation” is a generic concept: In my case it is about learning functions and potential of a program, for the simple fact that by reading the documentation (manual of thousands of pages) you understand the operation of a matlab function, but not its pros and cons in specific applications. I think it is worth the same for those who follow courses on software cad, fem etc..

If you tell me about courses on theoretical themes (experimental physics), go quietly that nobody pays anything to me .. it is assumed that as an engineer one has these knowledge (I studied 5 years at the polimi, thank you but I do not sit to take notes even if they pay me :d) and if you do not have them or do not remember them, be able to goarsele to look for independently between notes, slides, papers, books, books, books and university thesis. I believe it is the everyday life of the engineer, there is little “method” to share with others. then your point of the mooc will certainly be appreciated.

I never thought you wanted to brag.
and I also agree with you that training is a generic topic (motive for which you start collecting resources then possibly you can also catalog)
but considers two things
1) not all designers/projectors are also engineers. I am, for example, not and therefore those mooc, in preparation for future further training objectives are very important
2) Some areas of design may be following school education (even if I was a graduate when I could not have studied mechatronics) as a result there are areas of study that may lead to further employment opportunities if faced