slow autocad with blocks

[PICO]

Good morning to all, I've been following you for a long time, but it's the first time I write.
I am a designer and I have a problem that is becoming unsustainable for my work. I looked around, but apparently there's no solution, maybe I missed something... .

use autocad 2009 only in 2d to draw facades and coatings.
work only in the model space (so no layout)
in order to make "parametric" my work I need to create a tot of blocks on the prospectus drawing (we also say only 30/40 listed blocks).
In this way the same blocks can be inserted into the executive boards of each panel I have to produce and every change to the table automatically updates the prospect and vice versa.

the problem is that just created autocad blocks becomes very slow in zoom and pan and moves to snaps, despite the file is small (eg less than 1 mb).

purge and _scalelistedit are useless.

I use a portable asus m50v with cpu t9400 duo, 4 gb ram, windows view and video card nvidia 9650m gt from 1 gb.

Can there be no solution?? ? ?

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

autocad slowing behavior with the blocks I experienced it too, almost constantly.
The thing I've realized, though, is that this happens when the blocks are changed (so they are updated throughout the drawing) and they remain in the drawing.
Trying (after changing the block, when the slowdown appears) to save, exit and reopen the same design immediately, the slowdown problem is gone.

I explained it with the information of what autocad keeps to allow the grape. In fact, during work, the file "flames" exponentially, to keep track of the operations done (otherwise it would not know how to return to a previous state). At the time of exit from the drawing, this "historical" is deleted from the program (in fact you can't do any undo in a newly opened file) and the design database is cleaned and compacted, returning to normal usage speed.

Try it yourself and let us know if you feel the same behavior.

 

[PICO]

I thank you for the answer, among other things very plausible in explanation more than logical.
Unfortunately I also tried to close completely autocad and restart it but the problem persists.
I also tried to freeze the layers on which the blocks are located, but nothing.
if necessary I can also post the file....
for my work it is vital to work this way, but the situation is not manageable!

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

post it, let's see if it's got some "refuse" inside that slows you down.
or do another test. open your "locked" dwg, copy all the entities that it contains (with a window, not with all or at crossing) with the basic copy.
paste it all into a new file and see in the new file what happens

 

[Tristan]

question perhaps superfluous. Did you install this?
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteid=123112&id=13271527&linkid=9240618

 

[PICO]

Thanks for the help.
I tried the copy and paste on new file, but nothing.
I'm downloading the file, but I have few hopes because it seems to me reading around that many have my problem and I haven't found solutions.
I try to attach the file, considering that this is only one of the many, it is not an isolated case!

 

[AntonioV]

after a robust "pure" in map2006, your file appears so: Is it better, or as before?

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[PICO]

cadlandian, when I open the file a message appears to me that says I miss the aeccvbase30 activator and I have to open without displaying replacement elements.
at this point the file is a splinter, but it lacks a half of the work, including the blocks that slowed me down (and that constitute my work)

 

[PlannerRoad]

try to do a delete of registered applications. are not eliminated with the simple command eliminates.
find it in the options The organtype the type of objects not used to delete [Blocchi/stiliQuota/Layer/TIpilinea/MAteriali/stiliMultidir/STilistampa/Forme/stiliTEsto/stiliML/stiliTAbella/stiliVisual/regapps/geometrium length zero/objects text blanks/all]: r

 

[AntonioV]

In fact, I let him automatically delete all the overlapping duplicates, without leaving prisoners. . .

try to download it now: I told map to overlook the blocks during the "pure".

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[PICO]

It is as before:
planneroad, perhaps it is imperceptibly better than before, but still we are not....

 

[PICO]

but do you see it fast or is it slow also by you?? ? ?

 

[AntonioV]

è come prima

explain yourself better: You mean it's slow as before, or it's fast, but something's missing?

be ultra-precise in the answers, thank you!

 

[PlannerRoad]

but do you see it fast or is it slow also by you?? ? ?

It doesn't seem as slow as you say.
have you tried the advice of tristan?

 

[PICO]

no cadlandian, the file is exactly the same as the first you posted, missing everything.
planner, I tried but it was already updated.
I obviously have some wrong autocad settling. . . .

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

also from me, with a quadcore, 4gb ram and sk video from 1gb, when you go back to the general overview of the design, starts to go to snaps.

then I edited the hook block, transforming that tide of foamed solid retines, into more orthodox retines (anxies 31 to understand).

the result was a remarkable improvement in graphic performance, not completely disappeared, but reduced to 10%

On the other hand, the design is complex. If it is true that it is small (500kb), this dimension is due only to the massive use of blocks.

This means that you will have only one instance describing entities included in the block, and instances of recall to those entities, so the file size is so reduced. But be careful. only on disk is reduced.
When you go to see your whole design, the graphics sk will have to "recompose" graphically all the blocks, so in memory (graphic) the design will be very heavy (here's the shutter).
lighten the block (blocks) and you will see to increase your graphics performance.
the physical size of the file will change very little

 

[AntonioV]

Save. here.: I put you 2 versions, an untouched original (just exported to dxf), the other with purge of only duplicate lines.

Does it change anything?

 

[PICO]

You've done it!
eliminated snails of the hook block has improved by madness!
now it is certainly manageable!
Thank you very much, you don't know how much I work out! !

I couldn't imagine that such stupidity influenced the file so much.

 

[PICO]

Caudlandian, now the two files are complete, but both slow as the original.
Thanks anyway for the time you dedicated me! !

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

I couldn't imagine that such stupidity influenced the file so much.

Now you know a little more than the mental meanders of autocad:biggrin: fanne darling, one day you will see it to someone else.