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If you "write", then you better not even post. no one takes it for nothing, no less I but at least I see that in the last post there is more concreteness and decision in showing how much had been said before. nothing binds me to dpt how true I have always heard extreme statements from people who have always and only used the extruded command and made some sketches. real experts and people who pushed beyond there was very little. certainly the first release that marked a certain stability and a point of arrival is 2009.3, while in the previous new commands did not allow to be really concrete to complete the most complex tasks. and however obvious that it takes time before the new ideas become mature and turn into something on which the competitors did not want to invest. managing imported geometries, generated and exported by other cads was perhaps always the challenge of the challenges. right, so many surfaces are trimmed and often not even continuous. it is necessary therefore always to clean the files but this is a procedure that already those who come from the solid designer is accustomed to doing. cutting and extending is something that those who work in the cnc field do continuously and in the end it is easy to do. the real problem is those who model the original file that often and willingly generates illegal operations, as trim with surfaces that generate intersections with fittings and many other cases. so in the end it is always "the adaptor" that makes its expenses. I also rated rhinoceros at the beginning, but then at the end with some dexterity also td does everything more than dignified so it is useless to involve another software that would only cause damage. we do not talk about rhino plugins to work on cnc, an incredible obscenity almost shameful. instead the integration of td with hypermill was a really winning move, much more detached than it is today with swx and inventor, which remain cad conceived to process native geometries, not imported. and I add that setting up a geometry with proes would be even more a blood bath, to say little improposable. Today, however, hypercad is nothing but bringing td features into a new interface integrated into hypermill and that in one way or another, it works. the fittings are a topic that needs to be evaluated specifically, useless to be generic when you do not have examples of reference. from a skillful user to make it switch between solid and surfaces, some fittings impossible even on other band cad a, I solved them with the plugged connection.
now I answer to the points that he has mentioned earlier
4- gsm is an enhanced feature at the time in think3 not to totally overwhelm geometries like some videos that work on ad hoc models, but to implement some deformations quickly when a customer asks you changes on the fly, a bit like when acting with the dynamic modeling of soliddesigner. with much more skill you could do more nice things but here we enter the within of advanced users who are not at all numerous
5- Regenerating surfaces and simplifying them with the appropriate commands, you can collect what was previously failed. I repeat, before saying that it fails and throws everything into the air, it is also necessary to analyze and verify the model. cads who decide what it is best to do yet do not exist and good or bad, it is still the hand and experience of the user who are decisive. the displacement of the features is almost always compromised by the fact that the user has acted with associative commands and not. many like the parametric, others for speed want to be history free, and eventually they pay the price at the time of the changes. It's inevitable.
6- no one doubts the vx strengths as well as I am user. but beyond the information that you can read on wikipedia about the origins of zw3d, the Chinese product today has been slightly improved at the kernel level (perhaps for a question of roiality or more, I am not well informed about this). rightly, the Chinese want to ensure some interoperability with other cads and therefore acis and parasolids must be called into question. the system must remain open and ensure compatibility, perhaps too much since their autocad2d version has been "bannata". I also recognize that at every release, zw3d always makes considerable progress especially in defining a "vertical" product
7- you've tangled... I've never said that rhino cares bad, indeed, it matters well and it's fast without eating too much memory and resources. the fact is that td owns the tools to adjust the imported geometries as well as rhino, so it is useless to involve another "cad" which is more explicitly a freeform. and once opened the geometry, through the interactive analysis and modeling tools you do everything possible, including simplifying the faces with closing the gaps. if instead the file in question has been exported from the original system with low precision, then it is obvious, better to give us to pile.
8- obvious that gsm does not exist only for t3, indeed as you have said alias and other material of the surfaces imitate the same concept. then by extension of what you said before, their "gsm" can act on those geometries on which td failed?!? I have never made such a comparison today, I would have no material time and it would be something foolish :) certain things if they have to hurry others. It remains in fact that acting on complex surfaces implies the passage to the nurbs speech, is avoidable. Are others different? today as today the processing power is available in abundance, not to mention the support (still minimally exploited) of the cube through the scalar multiplication where the processors are still poor, even the most recent. so td starts from simple things, but if the user intends to push himself further, he can do it by taking on the nurbs. whether it is a casino or not, computational geometry is this, and will remain it for a long time
9- unigraphics had to play force to get covered from the commercial point of view, its product is perhaps the most evolved today, but really capable programmers/researchers want to be paid well. and at difficult times the financial cover avoids the escape of brains. but while we can compare technically the cads, from the commercial point of view everything would be composed and the differences would become abyssal. everything has a cost.
10- I said it from the beginning, think3 from the commercial point of view was a catastrophe never seen but you are confusing the litter with the lanterns. zbrush is one thing, an innovative, stable and reliable cad more. Does zbrush intend to collide sooner or later with adobe or few more?!? ! of course, congratulations to his author, pity that his limits have already been drawn. but I repeat, capable people want to be paid.

no one says that your opinion is right or wrong, simply it is subject to considerations that must first be well evaluated and not because "it is done to write".

Say hi.
 
you wrote: post a step or iges that td can not empty but other competitors can. hi, I remember that even the last versions of td had big problems managing these conditions (see below). if everything works well happy to be denied and therefore means they are working well in t3.

below the sequence to be repeated even and the file cad.
I did not have td and the attached file I did it with other means.

on r50 fittings, it does not solve by inserting 49.85 etc.
same speech for the dome. the rays put on coast should not give problems
all to do with the comado racorda borders, ready away. no work from "sarto"
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Hello, thank you for posting an example file that tomorrow afternoon I will try to collect. from what I can see it is a limit case to try to put (justly) in crisis the command of connection, but that however is "mathematically" solveable. Then as soon as possible I will try with zw3d that I only have in the office, so I must necessarily postpone, sin. Don't worry, no tailor's work... bye.
 
Hello, thank you for posting an example file that tomorrow afternoon I will try to collect. from what I can see it is a limit case to try to put (justly) in crisis the command of connection, but that however is "mathematically" solveable. Then as soon as possible I will try with zw3d that I only have in the office, so I must necessarily postpone, sin. Don't worry, no tailor's work... bye.
Hello, without haste:-)
with zw3d works all right, fyi
 
I've already seen them in the past, and they haven't ended well. as a "historical" user I only wish to avoid building the specific case of very little general interest, and to remain in such a realistic case of industrial interest.
 
Hi.
You mean something like that? applying the couplings to geometry was very simple as fast. td is not tripped into long "meditation jelly" as typically happens with other toy. and say that it also works with precision to the thousandth as the original step was exported. the displayed quotas are "guide rates", not "drawn" annotations, of course :) you control yourself.

we talked about "healing" at the time of importation of interchange geometries, which td egregiamente and in times very reduced as rhino. under import options here is "correction", as it appears at the time of export.
everything depends on the case, but when amounting a single how complex it starts with any surface except the planar ones, I hold this option disabled because immediately a tool->modelling->verification topology, then I decide whether to use the closure of ism faces (attention, it works only by extension/cut of intersecting surfaces), or to explode and make the tailor with gsm or traditional tools.
 

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I've already seen them in the past, and they haven't ended well. as a "historical" user I only wish to avoid building the specific case of very little general interest, and to remain in such a realistic case of industrial interest.
Hello hunter, pleasure to resent you. However, it is not a discussion of access to evidence and deepening, this time it was touched on the gatherings when we had instead started from more advanced topics such as the gsm:) perhaps the interest is not explicitly industrial, but some comparison and deepening could be interesting (sometimes). the "out of topic" and answers as "useless" as "pointless" do not count on this forum. then why not post some criticism and do tests or attempts to test one cad or the other? I was thinking, could you maybe try this solidedge and soliddesigner connection operation that you can cleverly use? ;)
Hello and good we.
 
I've already seen them in the past, and they haven't ended well. as a "historical" user I only wish to avoid building the specific case of very little general interest, and to remain in such a realistic case of industrial interest.
I also follow this discussion, I invite the two users to better express their business/professional roles and the motivations of a discussion set in this way.
 
Hello hunter, pleasure to resent you. However, it is not a discussion of access to evidence and deepening, this time it was touched on the gatherings when we had instead started from more advanced topics such as the gsm:) perhaps the interest is not explicitly industrial, but some comparison and deepening could be interesting (sometimes). the "out of topic" and answers as "useless" as "pointless" do not count on this forum. then why not post some criticism and do tests or attempts to test one cad or the other? I was thinking, could you maybe try this solidedge and soliddesigner connection operation that you can cleverly use? ;)
Hello and good we.
It will be as you say, but to me these arguments about such specific cases do not affect minimally and they just seem to me advertisements for one product or another. It will be that by virtue of using different software I don't feel any more interested in saying that the cad I bought does that thing like and better than the other one, and it seems strange enough that a paying user loses free time for this purpose, maybe it seems strange to me because of free time I have very little and I would never use it like that.
 
Sure, I fully understand your point of view. but on a forum that is "the community of designers", there should also be comparison and criticism, no?! Otherwise, what should not be excluded altogether, the forum would assume a non-industrial but commercial appearance;)

user "paying"??? ? :confused:
 
100% genuine user also me, no dealer and zero jnteressi conflicts
motivation: It is debated on t3; I break mine and others give course to their observations.
 
And it seems strange enough to me that a paying user loses his free time for this, maybe it seems strange to me because I have very little time off and I would never use it like that.
how much you write seems to me in very slight contradiction to the messages you post, 9000 messages since 2007. about 1000 messages per year. :confused:
 
motivation: It is debated on t3; I break mine and others give course to their observations.
Exactly, simpler than that... no one forces anyone to think it the same way. Should we also limit freedom of thought? :) questions are asked, and answers are given. we are discussing and doubting something, and clarifying it. forums have always existed to help and to confront each other.
 
how much you write seems to me in very slight contradiction to the messages you post, 9000 messages since 2007. about 1000 messages per year. :confused:
acute observation, I did not get there ... who pays, who advertises, who is and who is sponsored, but no one regardless has time. strange :confused:
 
Well, go ahead, let's see if this discussion takes the road that has already been seen in a distant past, among other things just on this software. I am not the one who moderates this section, so I express only a user opinion.

Bye.

p.s. if you want a long time ago you led a test campaign with the help of users, wanting you can participate, at least we do it on a little more real contexts:
http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/35324-focus-sull-usabilità
 
instead I would say that it is better to stop here, otherwise we risk to raise a great dust ... for nothing:) so much the introductory argument on the news of 2016 has been put, and to those who will come to read this topic should certainly not come to mind doubts about the ability to td to make connections ... always that has time to read :biggrin:
 

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