who knows solid edge and solid works? pro and cons of the latest versions

[cacciatorino]

Besides: how does it work if with the surfaces? do you have tangency controls and curve continuity as with swx?

I don't know how to answer that.... I don't know anything about surfaces!:frown:

 

[re_solidworks]

I don't know how to answer that.... I don't know anything about surfaces!:frown:

I bought the r8 auditorium tutorial and I'm doing it at hours lost. I'll tell you I didn't even think swx could do anything like that.

As soon as I have a moment I try to fight with some of the strengths of swx, but I can't say what are the strengths compared to if because, as already said, I should use it to see what I miss swx.

 

[re_solidworks]

another thing: did you try the welded? Is there anything similar in itself? I tried to record a video but it's 200 mb! besides: with if you can develop a flat screen? Can you create round tube joints with prependicular cut so that those who cut them with cnc can use 100% your model? can develop calandered profiles like upn - he - square tubes, etc...

with swx I do it quietly. . .

 

[fabiovello]

better in what, say it, that we don't know if? Do you use it if you have noticed that swx does something better otherwise you wouldn't have that impression, or did they hypnotize you? :wink:

one thing I liked and that I find useful is the possibility together to do the section having the possibility to go to touch and edit directly what I want to retouch.
the table had not seemed bad, I used to if v20 I had the impression that it was leaner.. .
sin for the lack of "management property" which is a manna from the sky.. .

 

[cacciatorino]

another thing: did you try the welded? Is there anything similar in itself?

there is the environment "structures" that grossly does the same thing, that is, starting from a unifilare scheme realizes the welded axieme (as assembly and not as a multibody part). I don't know how it works because I don't have a license to use it.
Then there's the welding environment to put the cords and the various work related.

Besides: with if you can develop a slodge on the floor? Can you create round tube joints with prependicular cut so that those who cut them with cnc can use 100% your model? can develop calandered profiles like upn - he - square tubes, etc...

I don't know how to tell you why I don't use the sheet of myself, my basic license (that of 3000 euros before the discount) is not provided.

 

[fabiovello]

for the price of sw I still don't know anything but if you have loose enough pants, otrepiù make a license rental for three years with final rata that is very convenient... on March 3 I have appointment with those of sw...

I would like to ask you, can you make profiles of a cylindrical cam with variable pitch editandola from table excel as can happen with if?

Can I make a step sampling on a chain path? with if you...

Can I mount a belt by adapting the automatic pull to the length of the belt? with you

Will sw give me these things? Losing them would be a shame

last question, why do you think in sw it is necessary to use a pdm?

It wasn't the last...discussed... but inventor at what level is it?

 

[re_solidworks]

I would like to ask you, can you make profiles of a cylindrical cam with variable pitch editandola from table excel as can happen with if?

I would say yes, the communication solidworks - excel is great and becomes super if you can use some vba. I saw some spectacular footage in which an excel sheet made the calculations and after the modifcihe pigiava a button (in excel) and built the swx curve. this film was made with 2008.

Can I make a step sampling on a chain path? with if you...

I chain the models so almost real. the management of the chains and straps is unified, but for the chains it is not the maximum (my opinion).

Can I mount a belt by adapting the automatic pull to the length of the belt? with you

is a standard function, which can act both on the sketches and on the pulleys directly in assembly.

Will sw give me these things? Losing them would be a shame

But why would you want to change if you're okay with it?

last question, why do you think in sw it is necessary to use a pdm?

it is not necessary and you work very well lost. with tab builder do it all very quickly, if you take an office you also have task scheduler that allows you to plan the builds of the properties automatically at night (at least for the common ones). Also there are a lot of macros on the net to facilitate this and many other operations, you can find many links already in this forum.
as in the presence of macros and repeats, available applications swx is a manna.
I add that for all cad3d it is very useful to have a pdm to better manage the amount of files you create, it is not a "problem" of swx. without pdm I see companies that continue to do and remake the same things because they first do it that to look for it, others that have 100 copies of the same file... In short, some typical suckers of those who do not use a pdm.

It wasn't the last...discussed... but inventor at what level is it?

They say it works well, but I can't give you directions. I have colleagues who use it and manage to achieve what it takes.

 

[re_solidworks]

there is the environment "structures" that grossly does the same thing, that is, starting from a unifilare scheme realizes the welded axieme (as assembly and not as a multibody part). I don't know how it works because I don't have a license to use it.
Then there's the welding environment to put the cords and the various work related.



I don't know how to tell you why I don't use the sheet of myself, my basic license (that of 3000 euros before the discount) is not provided.

in swx is included in the base, so if with swx you need a pdm to fill some shortcomings than if, perhaps there is other than equally useful already in the base. as I said a test like yours can not give a truthful result and I explain why:

- you used a limited version
- you did not do any courses and learning from self-taught you try to do what you did before, but swx is not if and you should work by taking advantage of swx strengths and bypassing weak points. I'm sure if I taught you, you'd have another opinion.

I add: try 2010 did not add extinguishing things, but saving time especially thanks to interface improvements make man-machine communication even better and faster.

I close and add that the best cad in everything does not exist.

 

[cacciatorino]

in swx is included in the base, so if with swx you need a pdm to fill some shortcomings than if, perhaps there is other than equally useful already in the base.

there is a small misunderstanding: the basic license of if (3000 euros) starts from a much lower level than the basic license of swx (6500 euros). the comparison must be made between foundation and swx classic that travel at the same level of price.

- you used a limited version
- you did not do any courses and learning from self-taught you try to do what you did before, but swx is not if and you should work by taking advantage of swx strengths and bypassing weak points. I'm sure if I taught you, you'd have another opinion.

the student version of swx is equal to the classic big way (only the export flters to step/iges remain.
However I have no negative opinion of swx, I only say that for my way of working if it has something more 'that speeds up my daily work at the same rate of purchase, and that for having the same functions' (propie manager, revision manager, variable table with integrated spreadsheet) I have to spend more ' (swx office + ms office + pdm). Maybe some swx features are deliberately low from the company to convince you of the pdm's use.

I close and add that the best cad in everything does not exist.

That's a good word.

 

[fabiovello]

I am informing about the two software, indeed they were three with osm because they are in the process of purchasing new licenses, cause job change, and since osm and se-v20 I used them I would have liked to know sw opinions before its presentation in the company, so to put under the press the sellers during the meeting... I have to thank you very much because your notes will be useful to me.. .
I will deal with special machines for packaging and automation in general with the prospect of making and standardizing some equipment. . I will work little with surfaces and much with real animations, cam profiles, transport chains... with these directions do you have any other suggestions?

 

[cacciatorino]

I will work little with surfaces and much with real animations, cam profiles, transport chains... with these directions do you have any other suggestions?

in this case if you take osd you absolutely need the "animation" module or as it is called, otherwise you do not have the constraints of together and therefore you cannot realize cinematisms. .

 

[fabiovello]

so much to keep you informed, since I asked questions right and missing, I opted for the purchase of swx 2010, and giving it a look I saw that it has not so many differences from if classic, in terms of functions or modeling, and not even in the management of the files, indeed it seems even better, more compared with that mess of the st if there are no comparisons.

 

[cacciatorino]

and even in file management, indeed perhaps it seems even better,

I'm sorry what exactly you mean by saying file management is better?

more compared to that mess of the st if there are no comparisons.

You mean direct editing? I think they're very different and difficult to compare.

 

[fabiovello]

I'm sorry what exactly you mean by saying file management is better?


You mean direct editing? I think they're very different and difficult to compare.

and I also reconnect to this:

However, I don't have a negative opinion of swx, I'm just saying that for my way of working if it has something more than speeding up my daily purchase equal work, and that for having the same features (propie manager, revision manager, variable table with integrated spreadsheet)

also because so many functions available in the property management are directly placed on the table, there is then the simplest management of the files that with a simple save are renamed, the part that divides creating a multibody without need to have a set, the matrix or sampling or mirrored part that also maintain the constraints and movements of the father, and here I make you a stupid example:

so many times with if I started drawing and then for one reason or another I had to utlize the left part of what I was drawing but the good and sincere if it created me si the twin sx but stuck without constraints and with all the work to remake, without then talking about a hand of grip...


I know well that they are 2 different modes but known that around there are just a few people who use it, most even after doing upgrade courses prefer to use the "classic" version, not only, many of them still use the v20... and we stopped at 3 years ago about... then mine is an opinion, I do not want to make controversy, I am answering myself in this discussion and for now I am using the demo of swx who knows in April how many surprises with the beginning of the course!:finger::biggrin:

 

[cacciatorino]

and I also reconnect to this:



also because so many functions available in the property management are directly placed on the table, there is then the simplest management of the files that with a simple save are renamed, the part that divides creating a multibody without need to have a set, the matrix or sampling or mirrored part that also maintain the constraints and movements of the father, and here I make you a stupid example:

so many times with if I started drawing and then for one reason or another I had to utlize the left part of what I was drawing but the good and sincere if it created me si the twin sx but stuck without constraints and with all the work to remake, without then talking about a hand of grip...


I know well that they are 2 different modes but known that around there are just a few people who use it, most even after doing upgrade courses prefer to use the "classic" version, not only, many of them still use the v20... and we stopped at 3 years ago about... then mine is an opinion, I do not want to make controversy, I am answering myself in this discussion and for now I am using the demo of swx who knows in April how many surprises with the beginning of the course!:finger::biggrin:

It seems to me that they are things you can do even if, I studied a good month swx and found it worse in everything except configurations.

 

[fabiovello]

points of view, moreover

I close and add that the best cad in everything does not exist.

and I add that the important thing for all and find yourself well with their shoes, creating as much as possible their own opinion based on facts and not rumors.

 

[cacciatorino]

points of view, moreover



and I add that the important thing for all and find yourself well with their shoes, creating as much as possible their own opinion based on facts and not rumors.

questo e' sicuramente vero! :biggrin: