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who knows solid edge and solid works? pro and cons of the latest versions

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hi to all, the reason for this discssion is not so much to find a pretext to make you quarrel between users of different cads, but to find for example drawing studies that use the different cads cause request of the customer and who know well what can be the merits and defects of the two in question
 
fabiovello said:
hi to all, the reason for this discssion is not so much to find a pretext to make you quarrel between users of different cads, but to find for example drawing studies that use the different cads cause request of the customer and who know well what can be the merits and defects of the two in question
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I have been using solid edge for many years and studied swx for a month in anticipation of its purchase.

I did this idea.

pro se:
  • board management (swx is now more or less where if it was 10 years ago).
  • file management if you do not have the pdm (change links between the parts/axis/tables, manage the propieta' of the parts, pull out distinct).
  • It seems a little more functional in a sketchy environment but they are almost equal
  • simpler joint constraints management (in my opinion)

pro swx
  • the price (you're more upset)
  • the configurations that in itself are practically not there, to you determine whether it is a value or not.
  • cosmos express included in the basic license
  • support, both official and user community is far more efficient.
  • the user interface considerably better
it is then said that if it is better with the plates and swx it is better in the big assemblies, but I could not verify either of the two thesis.

I still propose for myself, especially for the first two points of the list of pro-se that really save a lot of time in everyday activity. Of course if you have the pdm and don't take care of the table, it's things that might not interest you.
 
pro se:
  • board management (swx is now more or less where if it was 10 years ago).

    and think that from the demos I saw on the last version seemed to go light years swx.
    I think this discussion will be useful if prepared as it is now...
    I totally missed the aspect of managing separate boards....

    I stay with my eyes open to new product descriptions.
 
cacciatorino said:
I have been using solid edge for many years and studied swx for a month in anticipation of its purchase.

I did this idea.

pro se:
  • board management (swx is now more or less where if it was 10 years ago).
  • file management if you do not have the pdm (change links between the parts/axis/tables, manage the propieta' of the parts, pull out distinct).
  • It seems a little more functional in a sketchy environment but they are almost equal
  • simpler joint constraints management (in my opinion)

pro swx
  • the price (you're more upset)
  • the configurations that in itself are practically not there, to you determine whether it is a value or not.
  • cosmos express included in the basic license
  • support, both official and user community is far more efficient.
  • the user interface considerably better
it is then said that if it is better with the plates and swx it is better in the big assemblies, but I could not verify either of the two thesis.

I still propose for myself, especially for the first two points of the list of pro-se that really save a lot of time in everyday activity. Of course if you have the pdm and don't take care of the table, it's things that might not interest you.
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At this point I would like to see the table of if. Couldn't you post some videos from somewhere where you feel much better if?
 
re_solidworks said:
At this point I would like to see the table of if. Couldn't you post some videos from somewhere where you feel much better if?
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There was all the discussion about the "disturbed things with solidworks", I think they've come up with a lot of things.

most problems are solved, but at the price of a longer procedure (the most important things were the male threads, the semidiameter quota, the transparent "reference parts", the impossibility' in the boards of assembly to show the hidden components with the only lines of encumbrance instead of "all or nothing" with a quick command instead of piece per piece or even line per line).
 
Hello hunter and thanks for the videos. In my opinion it is small, the only real thing comfortable I think is the dotted footprint of the covers.
I think if you worked a few years with swx you would find several things that he has and that if he does not, a test of a few months for currency purposes is not enough to understand finesses like these.
Keep in mind that the swx is very attentive to customer requests and you may already see the function of the "transparent" card since 2011.
I use a pdm and I don't mind.
I would never renounce configurations, which if pushed in the right way with data tables can really give a lot.
as in other discussions it is clear that everyone has its strengths and it is not possible to judge who is better than who.
 
re_solidworks said:
I think if you worked a few years with swx you would find several things that he has and that if he does not, a test of a few months for currency purposes is not enough to understand finesses like these.
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Most likely you're right, I'm limited to exposing the strengths of if I know very well, for those related to swx I hope intervening other users.

However you will remember that the tests we had done at the end of 2009 here' on the forum had been extensive enough.

note in margin: to think about who makes it to be partisans of our programs? both I and you have paid it fragrantly, should be siemens and dassault to do these works of evangelization! :biggrin:
 
cacciatorino said:
Most likely you are right, the rest I have limited myself to exposing the strengths of if, for those related to swx hope intervening other users.

However you will remember that the tests we had done at the end of 2009 here' on the forum had been extensive enough.
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agree on this, but it is also true that you are a user with a lot of experience on whether and you immediately notice if another cad does not have a function you use habitually. Probably if I tried if I would find as many points where swx does more...
 
fabiovello said:
but does not sw harm all this?
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Property management: it doesn't do as you see, you have to go part by side (you can't make copy-paste for example.

storage constraints: impossible

semidiameter quota: you with a simple stratagem ("include edge", should be automatic on 2010)

automatic male thread share: no until 2009, yes on 2010 but it seems not working very well

transparency in the table: you have to use the "viewing data", you do but it takes a lot of time

edges of hidden parts: does not do it with a general command, you have to go piece by piece so you put a lot, with swx the quick command allows you to see all or no hidden edge, it does not allow you the ways in the middle.


I'll see to upload another couple of videos with the revision manager and bom generation at the table, even there I got the impression that if it's significantly better.
 
but a user like the legendary hunter for if we don't find him for sw 2010?
I saw the various demos on sw 2010 and seemed better, was it just a mirror for allodole?
 
fabiovello said:
but a user like the legendary hunter for if we don't find him for sw 2010?
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No, they threw away the mold:smile:
I saw the various demos on sw 2010 and seemed better, was it just a mirror for allodole?
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better in what, say it, that we don't know if? Do you use it if you have noticed that swx does something better otherwise you wouldn't have that impression, or did they hypnotize you? :wink:
 
fabiovello said:
I saw the various demos on sw 2010 and seemed better, was it just a mirror for allodole?
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what you see in demos you don't have to take much into consideration, even think3 and osd (:biggrin: ) demos make a figurone! This is the situation created specifically to raise the merits and hide the defects of a tool, then it is also true that the marketing men of the swx are "100 times" smarter than their colleagues of themselves. The best thing would be a one-month test, but I realize it's not very likely.

comunqe returning to the theme: You know you buy if it's that you buy swx in the end, it's not wrong, it's two great tools both.
another advantage of swx that I forgot is that every license you can install twice (on the fixed and on the laptop for example or use the work pc and the home) provided of course to use them one at a time. doing the same thing with you is a lot more complex.

If I can afford, have you already asked for offers? What discount did you get?
 
I don't know if but I want to say something to sw.
in the company we have several sw floating licenses 2009 and the only additional cost we had to pay to have floating instead of the stands was the license manager. It seems to me if I am not mistaken about 2000 euros. (not licensed but total!)
floating allows you to install the software on how many computers you want. Just don't use multiple licenses at the same time as they are available.
you can also, if necessary, download the license on a laptop for a defined period of time and take it away, for example to take the job home we or to go to a customer for a presentation. in this way the software is installed on all computer of the designers, even if someone uses it assiduously and others sporadicly.
I don't think so, even if I'm not informed, that if you give the same chance.
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What I mean is that normally the cost of the fleeting license is higher than that of the fixed license.
Since early 2009, solidworks has drawn the two costs, making it very convenient to equip the company with floating licenses, which allow better use of software. The only additional cost is the licence manager, it seems to me 2000euro.
 
cacciatorino said:
what you see in demos you don't have to take much into consideration, even think3 and osd (:biggrin: ) demos make a figurone! This is the situation created specifically to raise the merits and hide the defects of a tool, then it is also true that the marketing men of the swx are "100 times" smarter than their colleagues of themselves. The best thing would be a one-month test, but I realize it's not very likely.
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I have always highlighted lights and shadows during the demos that have made me. I have never accepted demos driven by them, I have semre led demos, according to my demands. in his time the technicians of if they really did it, in that case it was very poor the technician, but it would be the one who should have taught me, therefore.. .
 
I say another thing: how is third-party applications if? if I have to solve specific issues can I find suitable applications? there are hundreds of swxes.

Besides: how does it work if with the surfaces? do you have tangency controls and curve continuity as with swx?
 

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