better inventor or solidworks?

[MauroM]

I don't know what you mean by the simplest, because until today I've always been able to do what I needed without using the juices.
I'm the first supercritical to inventor but I'd love that whoever gives a judgment could also motivate, otherwise instead of opening a discussion we make a poll like "what you prefer between this and that" and it ended there.

 

[marcof]

I don't know what you mean by simple

simple modeling = modeling with very simple shapes. . :smile:

 

[re_solidworks]

I don't know what you mean by the simplest, because until today I've always been able to do what I needed without using the juices.
I'm the first supercritical to inventor but I'd love that whoever gives a judgment could also motivate, otherwise instead of opening a discussion we make a poll like "what you prefer between this and that" and it ended there.

Here's an example where surfaces help a lot. I used them to shape the hips and then thickened.
this operation can be done directly of sheet metal but it is more immediate (in my opinion) to do so: 2 triangular planar surfaces + thickening + sheet function.
there are cases in which it is mandatory to pass through the surfaces, for example when there are very strange fitting sheets (type hopper) it is possible to reduce the plate to triangoli planes of surfaces, to join these triangles and then to thicken all together. without this technique would not be possible to make very complex details.

 

[loziaccio]

really interesting all this discussion. I've been wondering what kind of 3d cad can be the best. I mostly work with soldworks and inventor, I saw my colleagues working on unigraphics (anti 3d in my opinion) let it go. solidworks also use it as cam software for numerical control combined with solidcam a truly functional plugin. Solidworks learns in a week, inventor takes more time but it's not difficult. as putting into the table inventor goes much better and of course being autodesk interfaces much better with autocad. The only thing is that solidworks in the toolbox has all the bookstores in English and not very editable. Are there any bookcases for solidworks made well?? because the main problem is the distinct, when I go to make the automatic bom puts the names in English that you find in the library. Hello everyone

 

[davide75]

See also inv you learn in a week

 

[loziaccio]

but with inventor I found some extra difficulties and for the speech of the bookcases that you recommend?? Hi.

 

[cacciatorino]

for the speech of the bookcases you recommend?? Hi.

you have to refer the question to the relevant forum:
http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/forumdisplay.php?f=9

 

[davide75]

I think that the easy difficle is linked to how a user is better and maybe even with which cad first to work, is too subjective to me.
Hi.

 

[re_solidworks]

really interesting all this discussion. I've been wondering what kind of 3d cad can be the best. I mostly work with soldworks and inventor, I saw my colleagues working on unigraphics (anti 3d in my opinion) let it go. solidworks also use it as cam software for numerical control combined with solidcam a truly functional plugin. Solidworks learns in a week, inventor takes more time but it's not difficult. as putting into the table inventor goes much better and of course being autodesk interfaces much better with autocad. The only thing is that solidworks in the toolbox has all the bookstores in English and not very editable. Are there any bookcases for solidworks made well?? because the main problem is the distinct, when I go to make the automatic bom puts the names in English that you find in the library. Hello everyone

of bookstores in Italian according to iso and there are one. You could watch uniworks or cadenas for example.
However the toolboxes are customizable without big problems, I know someone who did.
I use the project library and prefer to manage everything by hand.

 

[beppino]

... I have seen my colleagues working on unigraphics (anti 3d in my opinion) let it go.

really interesting this very "intelligent" opinion and very well argued.

but please me...:biggrin:

 

[didinero]

If you are undecided between solidworks and inventor, I can tell you about my experience. in my profession I tried them both, first solidworks for 3 years, now use inventor from 4, then for an important time; I make mechanical design “pure”, I rarely use the plates, almost never the surfaces and ... sincerely prefer solidworks.
the two programs are very similar to appearance; in everyday use however you realize that solidworks was set by designers; does not have so many rubble (free, calculations) but has the functions that a designer uses daily.
I make examples to explain:
• inventor does not use the file system to manage files, so if you work in more than one person with the same files you may overwrite each other the changes; to overcome this problem (which obviously never jumps out in the demos) you have to use the vault (a kind of pdm, free) but it is a bit Moroccan
• libraries (free) calculate gears and straps, but the straps we use (mainly htd) are not there, or at least are indicated with a number of uni I do not know; for calculations then, require some parameters that are not known with safety, can you trust those proposed?
• with inventor you first delete a function and do it again rather than change it (e.g. to move it on another plane or face) losing references in the assemblies and quotas in the table masses
• with solidworks I can recover practically all the odds I put in the model, with inventor I often have to add them by hand losing in table productivity
• always for odds, inventor has an infinity of settings that you can adjust, too many, it ends up you lose us inside and use the standard ones
I could continue but I hope I have clarified my opinion; that inventor, while being a good program, has more smoke than roast ... I return to choose the solidworks

Hi.

 

[davide75]

ok for your arguments, but I could object like this:
calculations that make inventor require parameters, but if you do hand calculations it is not that you with confidence know the same paramatri you go to use. Then it depends that calculations go to do...for the straps I usually rely on the methods of calculation that are in each catalog depending on the manufacturer for which I think it is too risky sometimes to rely only on the program because the values must be interpreted.poi in my opinion I do not believe that the limitation on the htd cinghe is a handicap for all the other calculation schemes that it has.
I don't know what you mean to erase a function rather than recover it. . I've always found myself able to recover everything just pay attention to how it is modeled referring obviously to the method of reasoning as it has every cad not to the personal way not to intersect me.
As for sects you can't say that sw is less, he also has a nice one then if you start scrolling all drop down menus you realize it!poi to make the pack&go sw needs windows search that slows down a casino the pc thing that inventor does quietly without windows search.
I can also tell you that sw if it comes out for any reason automatically creates in rows with the tilde symbol in front, so if another user tries to open that file gives you as a result that is used and lets you open it in read-only....I'm sure you have to go look for all the files with the tilde in front and go to delete them manually.I don't know at this point if it is more convenient....
all the other things I have written in the posts back and then I repeat that everything depends on what one has to do.the fact that inv is all smoke and no roast I would be careful to make this statement as also sw has its beautiful casinos as for example not to marry politics linux and how instead make sure that every update always weighs from 700 mb to a giga.
like you then I also do pure mechanics and use sw and inv for 6 years and then according to me for example in the inv sheet I find it very strong.
return to say that cmq is all subjective and always depends on what one intends to do.

 

[bio]

then to make the pack&go sw needs windows search that slows down a casino what inventor does quietly without windows search.
I can also tell you that sw if it comes out for any reason automatically creates in rows with the tilde symbol in front, so if another user tries to open that file gives you as a result that is used and lets you open it in read-only....ergo you have to go look for all the files with the tilde in front and go to delete them manually.

I am a superficial cad user (in the sense that I use it little), but for those times that I used inventor I deterated it. . .macchinoso, macchinoso, macchinoso, 3 adjectives only for the interface.. .obviously said by surface user :d

I'm telling you that you said two things that seem wrong to me... windows search doesn't seem mandatory (at least until 2008 I'm sure) and regarding crashes, well, never happen to have to manually delete the hidden files to unlock them.. It's easier than, though the graphic interface is crashed, the process is still hanging and still keeps the files blocked (succes). ..close the process and/or restart is usually enough. .

bio

 

[davide75]

look for 2009 if you don't have the windows search you can't make the pack&go, at least so it was said that it works. Sometimes it's not enough to close and reboot to unlock the files I can assure you. As for the surfaces I never said that inv is strong, indeed if you look in my post back I had recommended sw just because of the surfaces.
Hi.

 

[didinero]

. the fact that inv is all smoke and no roast I would be careful to make this statement as also sw has its beautiful casinos as for example not to marry linux politics and as instead make sure that every update always weighs from 700 mb to a giga.
like you then I also do pure mechanics and use sw and inv for 6 years and then according to me for example in the inv sheet I find it very strong.

do not misunderstand me, if you read well, I wrote that inventor has more smoke than roast; not that it is all smoke and nothing roasted. I also say it's a good program. I would assign the silver medal ... after gold to solidworks
It is also true that the latest versions of solidworks did not use them to work on it, so it could get worse. For example, I remember that the pack&go did it without windows search.
my interest in the program is to be used, I don't care whether you marry linux policy; I prefer that the table automatically amounts the view scale in the cartilage or can print a window of a drawing indicating the desired scale.

 

[davide75]

I'm sorry you're right, but we're both saying the same thing . linux politics I say not so bad I am a supporter but because in my company they use linux on the server and we say that we only had porblemas with sw, all here.cmq in the end always depends what everyone has to do.

 

[LORIS2411]

inventor, solidworks, solidedge, pro/e, in 3d (what I use)
The best way to put it on the table is undoubtedly inventor because it is the most similar to the 2d autocad and also the easiest... and as a solidworks design is a little better than inventor.
then depends on what use you need and what sector

 

[davide75]

@loris

The question of points of view, since I also use your own sw because for me the best table is that of itself.

 

[re_solidworks]

look for 2009 if you don't have the windows search you can't make the pack&go, at least so it was said that it works. Sometimes it's not enough to close and reboot to unlock the files I can assure you. As for the surfaces I never said that inv is strong, indeed if you look in my post back I had recommended sw just because of the surfaces.
Hi.

I hadn't seen your surgery, I don't install the desktop search for two years, it broke my boxes and I don't want it.
Of course the pack&go I lose them, depends on how archives. if you store files in a strange way result long or incomplete.
then the pack&go of swx I use it little, usually I do it from the pdm, but to work it works.

 

[alex_novi]

• always for odds, inventor has an infinity of settings that you can adjust, too many, it ends up you lose us inside and use the standard ones

in my view this is a great value.
once personalized inventor (what happens with time and only using it a lot) you can do everything with extreme immediacy.

inventor I used it now with closed eyes, now I use solid edge st and I find it terrible, slender, slow, heavy.

I have to choose a new cad too, but I realized that it depends on what you have to draw.