design with spaceclaim

[SimoneDB]

Good morning to all,
is from a few days that we have purchased spaceclaim 2014. before today I have always used solidworks so I could define myself very linked to the logic of features and therefore of the parametric in general. I've seen videos of the new software and learned about the potential. The only difficulty I have is in sketching.
with solidworks often in the sketch phase I used "add relationship" to impose tengencies, parallelisms and what else and to obtain the geometry I wanted. often in fact not having the knowledge of a given quota I could obtain it by imposing the suitable relationships.
Is there something like this in spaceclaim? or should I draw as if it were a sheet of paper?

Thank you very much hope to have been clear

simone

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

Good morning.
to create a parallel line to another just go to fix the first point and point with the mouse for a moment the line to which the one we are drawing must be parallel. done this if you move the pointer to the second point, trying to make a parallel line (by eye) the reference line lights up green. in this way you do "snap" with the parallel.
for the tangeza idem. If you draw a circle and then a line going approximately on the tangency point there is a symbol of an equal (parallele) that indicates the snap on the tangent point.

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

I also put some screenshots:

parallel

tongente

for insights it would be interesting to know what you can't do exactly (so maybe take a screenshot of what you would like to accomplish and the logical sequence you would use with solidworks)
alternatively because it does not require assistance to your dealer. normally the first year after the course is provided technical support.

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

I also put some screenshots:

parallel

tongente

for insights it would be interesting to know what you can't do exactly (so maybe take a screenshot of what you would like to accomplish and the logical sequence you would use with solidworks)
alternatively because it does not require assistance to your dealer. normally the first year after the course is provided technical support.

I saw some video on youtube of this wonderful software but I wondered if it also had a more "numerical" control on flanging of sheet or profiles, quotas or creation of series of holes to be changed. . .
Coming from solidworks, for example, this approach is missing with numbers. This looks like a freer modelling.. .
Is there any video about it, to better understand?
thanks for the attention.

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

Of course. Unfortunately the fact that it is all very dynamic makes it look like a b series software for mechanics, maybe it seems more suitable to model the clay... It's not like that! Many users who look for the first time the software ask me this same question "but can they also put quotas?" the answer is yes! when "transcini" a sheet metal edge create a flange (at 90° default, but you can change the angle between the options of the instrument), whenever you make a change it is incremental. you can write (without pulling anything!) 100mm and press Enter. Alternatively you can use the ruler function and place the quota point at the beginning of the flange and insert the desired quota (300 mm and sending). for the series the same thing, you create a hole (in a precise point and with a precise diameter, see above the quotation in the cad2d), then you use the appropriate function creates series, or alternatively the old "setting" with creates series. you choose the step and number, or the share of the last hole and the number. If you want some videos, I'll do it fast. Tell me what you want to see. Maybe I can clarify for everyone and something useful comes out! :

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

Of course. Unfortunately the fact that it is all very dynamic makes it look like a b series software for mechanics, maybe it seems more suitable to model the clay... It's not like that! Many users who look for the first time the software ask me this same question "but can they also put quotas?" the answer is yes! when "transcini" a sheet metal edge create a flange (at 90° default, but you can change the angle between the options of the instrument), whenever you make a change it is incremental. you can write (without pulling anything!) 100mm and press Enter. Alternatively you can use the ruler function and place the quota point at the beginning of the flange and insert the desired quota (300 mm and sending). for the series the same thing, you create a hole (in a precise point and with a precise diameter, see above the quotation in the cad2d), then you use the appropriate function creates series, or alternatively the old "setting" with creates series. you choose the step and number, or the share of the last hole and the number. If you want some videos, I'll do it fast. Tell me what you want to see. Maybe I can clarify for everyone and something useful comes out! :

...I don't know, I'd like to see how to create and change a sheet profile starting from a 2d sketch (as you do on other software) and maybe how to create and edit a series of holes... In short, a comparison between spaceclaim and solidworks or inventor or solidedge that are similar to each other...I know I'm a little vague, but I can't explain myself better!

thanks for the attention and always punctual answers!

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

I will prepare you a short video, it will be a condensate of everything you asked, so the file will be lighter, but consider that there are so many ways to get the same thing, I will show you some.

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

Here is the video:[video=youtube;Wy5ELWHpf7A]http://youtu.be/wy5elwhpf7a?list=uujfyewz_x83j8paoc0hj9hg[/video]

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

Here is the video:[video=youtube;Wy5ELWHpf7A]http://youtu.be/wy5elwhpf7a?list=uujfyewz_x83j8paoc0hj9hg[/video]

the program seems very interesting, especially practical for use in the workshop... After lunch I look at it more carefully!
I ask a "bischerata": can the program also manage multiple pieces of assemblies? creates the dxf on the fly, without too many steps? ....after I also go on the web page and read some specifications. Thank you for the moment!

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

the program seems very interesting, especially practical for use in the workshop... After lunch I look at it more carefully!
I ask a "bischerata": can the program also manage multiple pieces of assemblies? creates the dxf on the fly, without too many steps? ....after I also go on the web page and read some specifications. Thank you for the moment!

Yes, it is a joke!!! :wink: can manage/import/suddivide assemblies. there is no modelling environment and an assembly environment, but a mixed environment (so you can work as you want, even as you did with solidworks) where you can insert components and bind them, and where you can draw new pieces, but also change the imported pieces... You're so free to do whatever you want. the dxf of course, is created on the fly, save by dxf name. If you mean the table put it automatically, the only thing you have to do manually (but so "assisted") is the quotation. if you need a demo please ask

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

Yes, it is a joke!!! :wink: can manage/import/suddivide assemblies. there is no modelling environment and an assembly environment, but a mixed environment (so you can work as you want, even as you did with solidworks) where you can insert components and bind them, and where you can draw new pieces, but also change the imported pieces... You're so free to do whatever you want. the dxf of course, is created on the fly, save by dxf name. If you mean the table put it automatically, the only thing you have to do manually (but so "assisted") is the quotation. if you need a demo please ask

Here's the video I remember seeing.... here they treat the odds differently, perhaps more similar to the classic software!
[video=youtube;AjETwFa19ic]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajetwfa19ic[/video]

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

Here's the video I remember seeing.... here they treat the odds differently, perhaps more similar to the classic software![video=youtube;AjETwFa19ic]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajetwfa19ic[/video]

Yes, the video that had shown matteo, showed the system of incremental modification of the quotas, the system of modification compared to one point (righello) and finally the creation of a plan annotations with the editable quotas (thanks to the selection of a surface to be changed and the edit of the relative quota). There is also another instrument, groups, which are variable and quotaable elements through parameters. I'll give you a video on this.

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

....in the end the creation of a annotation plan with the editable quotas (thanks to the selection of a surface to be changed and the edit of the relative quota). There is also another instrument, groups, which are variable and quotaable elements through parameters. I'll give you a video on this.

that of the variable quotas is perhaps more similar "to the norm"... but spaceclaim is widespread in Italy? I discovered it at the sheet metal fair 2 years ago, by combination. . .

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

Yes, but it is not necessary. you work well without it. question of habit. spaceclaim is widespread in some sectors in particular (third-account processing, prototyping, engineering) or as "secondary" cad to import/export files. I think it's less common than it deserves. often I happen to meet designers (for example) who do not only play this function and who have little time. they often have 3d systems disproportionate for what they have to do, they often have done a course of days and days, but they should only make simple boxes of sheet metal and just see how spaceclaim does remain stunned, they have the impression (but it is the reality) that they would learn in a short time and that on the contrary they have lost time to "study" an excellent product from the beautiful potential, but too complex (e. they have taken a cad3d presented well (from who knows how to use it), but recommended badly. in these cases a famous software eats market shares to a less famous software. a cad should be like all other tools suitable for purpose. Would you ever go on a dirt road with a racing bike? I hope not!

Anyway, I think I met you, if your name is rotten, it's you!

here is the video about the groups I promised you: http://youtu.be/kp9t9scq7-i

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

....however I think I've met you, if your name is rotten you!

here is the video about the groups I promised you: http://youtu.be/kp9t9scq7-i

Good morning, I'm rotten!
As for the video, it seems to me that this system can only be used in the presence of "assiemi", or is it not? even the name suggests it! seems very similar to a configuration with "excell table" of sw... actually the ruler function looks much more practical than all. other question: can two or more details of a set be related? or if you change something about the particular 1 you find on the particular 2?

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

Then hi marco!
mistakes, groups refer to one or more items to move or edit. in general with groups I create a fast selection of many elements, of a set or even only of an element. If they select a face of a cube and I press on "create new group" sc creates the group composed of 1 single face. I clearly don't need to use it for one face. in the example you see instead the group was created by selecting more faces of the same solid (not a set!). the group has also been added a function (setting or drag) and a quotation system.

e.g. 1: I want to make it easy to change the size of 5 holes that are scattered in my geometry. I select them once, I press on "transcina", I create a new group. every time they select that group is as if I repeat the same selection and dragging of a certain value.

e.g. 2: I want to create a relationship between two solids that, within a set, must be at a certain x distance compared to another element. select the two solids, move, choose the starting point of the movement, the direction, then choose the base point of the ruler quota, finally I create the group. every time x must change instead of repeating everything select the group

e.g. 3: I want my parametric box project to be modified by those who do not know the software. I create the box with the group and the user only changes the quotas

e.g. 4: I want a set of elements belonging to a set to hang together. I have the floor, the table with 4 legs and a worktop. when I change h the floor rises and the legs stretch, the floor remains where it is.

the ruler function is practical, consider that the first time you draw the ruler is automatic. Extrude (with drag) just press 200 to extrude 200mm to mean us.

you can relate to the constraints of together (for cinematics), such as tangent, align, gear, still, rigid... groups can be used to relate in a certain way two or more particular. There is no connection between solid construction and Boolean operations. es you cannot change a screw and automatically change the washer, and holes. you can select the screw cylinder, the inside of the washer, and the holes cylinders and drag them both (eg +2mm). Of course the same can be done with the group!

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

Then hi marco!
mistakes, groups refer to one or more items to move or edit. in general with groups I create a fast selection of many elements, of a set or even only of an element. If they select a face of a cube and I press on "create new group" sc creates the group composed of 1 single face. I clearly don't need to use it for one face. in the example you see instead the group was created by selecting more faces of the same solid (not a set!). the group has also been added a function (setting or drag) and a quotation system.

e.g. 1: I want to make it easy to change the size of 5 holes that are scattered in my geometry. I select them once, I press on "transcina", I create a new group. every time they select that group is as if I repeat the same selection and dragging of a certain value.

e.g. 2: I want to create a relationship between two solids that, within a set, must be at a certain x distance compared to another element. select the two solids, move, choose the starting point of the movement, the direction, then choose the base point of the ruler quota, finally I create the group. every time x must change instead of repeating everything select the group

e.g. 3: I want my parametric box project to be modified by those who do not know the software. I create the box with the group and the user only changes the quotas

e.g. 4: I want a set of elements belonging to a set to hang together. I have the floor, the table with 4 legs and a worktop. when I change h the floor rises and the legs stretch, the floor remains where it is.

the ruler function is practical, consider that the first time you draw the ruler is automatic. Extrude (with drag) just press 200 to extrude 200mm to mean us.

you can relate to the constraints of together (for cinematics), such as tangent, align, gear, still, rigid... groups can be used to relate in a certain way two or more particular. There is no connection between solid construction and Boolean operations. es you cannot change a screw and automatically change the washer, and holes. you can select the screw cylinder, the inside of the washer, and the holes cylinders and drag them both (eg +2mm). Of course the same can be done with the group!

Well, then it's more practical and interesting than I thought! maybe it is a function that you should use as "primary" (in case of origin from other 3d software...)

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

I was wondering something: spacecliam behaves like solidworks when converting into profile (from solid to sheet) starting from a "sweep" (specific profile dragged on a pre-designed path). solidworks creates exaggerated discharges on the corners and, sometimes, thicknesses that overlap. . .
as always my curiosity is that maybe I can return useful to future buyers. .
(last days I'm documenting a lot on youtube). Thank you, Marco.

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

It doesn't seem to me... when you make a profile like:

section |_/ along a rectangle (which does as a guide) the software creates the solid that you then have to change by clicking on the folds and welds (and here you create rather large discharges, yes). However then you will have to make the cuts to 45° (with the special function). some downloads then you can fill or edit them (reducing them to something small. If I can get you a video.

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

It doesn't seem to me... when you make a profile like:

section |_/ along a rectangle (which does as a guide) the software creates the solid that you then have to change by clicking on the folds and welds (and here you create rather large discharges, yes). However then you will have to make the cuts to 45° (with the special function). some downloads then you can fill or edit them (reducing them to something small. If I can get you a video.

Thanks for the moment then. in solidw instead, sometimes, the thicknesses also overlap if the profile is open and go once to right and once to sx.....