staggered sample, ribs section and other conventions.

[bagarospo81]

Hello to all, I am going to use sw after I made a little bones with catia v5 and especially inventor 2012.
I can't understand how we do (and if we can actually do) in the drawing/message stage, to make sure that the tracing relative to two areas of adjacent material but dissected according to staggered planes is reproduced with a slight offset between the lines of the sampling (as from technical norms) and then how to not sample the elements of the view as precisely the thin elements like the ribs (even in this case as from norms!).
Thank you for helping!

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

for the staggered capital in the property manager of the section view there is voice Automatic sampling
for ribs or is made with the appropriate function or you have to select the area and property manager of the restraint put no one to area/body

 

[bagarospo81]

for the staggered capital in the property manager of the section view there is voice Automatic sampling
for ribs or is made with the appropriate function or you have to select the area and property manager of the restraint put no one to area/body

..but I think I have used the automatic sampling but nisba!...he fields the areas automatically but to rub them off as from technical norm just don't talk about it.. At least in my case so I don't know if I have to set up something in the property but I've lost some time but I can't find anything! (among other things I don't understand why if I change something on the property of the document I must then every time specify everything again at the opening of a new document)

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

an image (of the section and its property manager) would help, as always, but it is also true that it is so nice to imagine the various possible situations.

It should be said that if the part is not a multibody the staggering does not make it as it considers it a monobloc piece. so you have to see how you shaped the part
in the properties there is nothing to set about the question staggered restraint.

By the way, I don't understand why if I change something on the property of the document I must then every time specify everything again at the opening of a new document

because the changes to the options of the document are only valid for the open one. If you want them to stay, you have to save it as a template.
is the first thing to do after the tutorials:
open a basic part/axis/draft, change the document options to make it suitable for your work, save it as a template, use those templates instead of solidworks basics

 

[bagarospo81]

I thank you for the answers...as I told you I am new on sw but not on cad..cmq I made you two shots of what I mean (of course it's just an example): It is clear that it is the same body is precisely on what I must be able to highlight the staggering of the sampling in the section for multiple planes....if it were a set obviously the samples of the various pieces are different and therefore the problem just does not arise

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

if it is a same body there cannot be staggering of restraint. even if you do a section with plan change the body is only one and also the norms indicate that the dash remains the same as you see from the extract of one of the many pdf that you find on the net
the staggering you only have if you do a multibody part; I'm talking about part, not together.

Obviously it is hoped that the example will recalc the real problem, otherwise it is quite ephemeral. Section lines look a little dizzy, maybe you don't have automatic reports active. do not think of using solidworks as if it were inventor or catia, it is not said that what one does is done with the other or with more or less ease. do the tutorials if you have not already done them and forget the procedures of other cad
View attachment Sezioni.pdf

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

from the image of the property manager seems that the version of solidworks is old; add it to your profile so that you can calibrate the answers.

 

[bagarospo81]

..so on this I feel I can refute you and I would say that also the pdf you have attached clearly says: p. 142 section a-a
"In the section views executed with parallel planes it can be useful to perform a
staggering of the hold at the change of the section plan.
the change of the section plan can be further highlighted with fine mixed lines. "
so I would say that this is a very serious lack you sw... seen that inventor and other cad allow quietly to perform this operation (unless maybe you, having never placed the problem, you do not know how you can do it).
my sw version is 2014 and it really doesn't fit because I know a bug casino especially when viewing! !

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I refute your Italians becausein section views with parallel floors can be useful perform a staggering of the hold at the change of the section plan.indicates that there is the possibility, an alternative, to perform the restraint. It is not an obligation. in particular cases, on complex designs, to highlight an area, a different dash may be useful
I never used other cads, except autocad but in this case it does not text, and I do not know how they work.
I never put the problem in my opinion because it is not a problem.

my sw version is 2014 and it really doesn't fit because I know a bug casino especially when viewing! !

is a fairly stable version updating to the last service pack. for display problems you should check that the graphics card is compatible

 

[bagarospo81]

I didn't think to raise such a dust....the staggered sampling I thought was something acquired and customary since it is reported a little anywhere.
cmq my question is always valid: can you do it or not? ...and if yes someone kindly would indicate me how?
Thank you.

 

[Mike1967]

Hello to all, I am going to use sw after I made a little bones with catia v5 and especially inventor 2012.
I can't understand how we do (and if we can actually do) in the drawing/message stage, to make sure that the tracing relative to two areas of adjacent material but dissected according to staggered planes is reproduced with a slight offset between the lines of the sampling (as from technical norms) and then how to not sample the elements of the view as precisely the thin elements like the ribs (even in this case as from norms!).
Thank you for helping!

I suggest you insert in your profile the version of solidworks you use because the outdated version program does not open the files created with the new versions and this creates disservices and time losses for those who want to give a hand.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I didn't think to raise such a dust....the staggered sampling I thought was something acquired and customary since it is reported a little anywhere.
cmq my question is always valid: can you do it or not? ...and if yes someone kindly would indicate me how?
Thank you.

You didn't lift any dust, quiet.
in solidworks the diverse sampling, which is staggered by some units or is more or less dense, is not possible if the body is unique.
on multibody parts and on assemblies you have to put the check in the voice of the property manager, as you did. Could you?

perhaps, much perhaps, indeed perhaps infinitely, there is the possibility to manage the restraint by drawing areas and remanaging the restraint as explained in the guide.attention that I have never tried so I have no idea or whether it is feasible with sections sampled automatically or if it is avoided by retrofitting problems due to model updates.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Öbagarospo81 Since you showed up with another question would be courteous if you said how you solved it, if you solved it, your problem; if you have opened an improvement report to solidworks, or other