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reading this post is how to relive the 'my' history of the passage from 2d to 3d!
practically the same situation: micro family-run company, hand-made designs on greased and bisunti sheets (until the passage to 2d) and when there were no drawings of any kind meant that somewhere there was a template or a template or sample to be copied every time!
I would say that the passage sheet ->2d was well digested at the time, when I arrived in 2002.
the difficulty was to move to 3d, explaining what were the priceless advantages in the face of an entirely acceptable expenditure: I have done more than a year of 'treatment' before I can buy proes.
at the beginning I was titubante and I said: "We don't need proes, we just need a mid-range." in fact for us a mid-range would have been enough, but you want to put:).
to convince me of the choice was the demo 'dedicated', organized in four and four eight, that only 'those' of proe have proposed to me: I highly recommend this road, whatever your choice.
price question: at the end of the negotiations the software package+hardware+pro course had a comparable cost (around 10,000) and in a case less than that of other mid-range, therefore there were no excuses!
ps: we produce machines and the main processing are those of medium carpentry, mechanical machining, sheet and assembly.
This is my experience I hope you need it and good choice!
greetings
ten adoro!!!:finger:
 
ti adoro!!!:finger:
well, i'm flattered. . .
when i had to choose and i was so doubtful i must say that your interventions pushed me towards proe because it transpired, beyond your passion, even the 'power' of this cad. then once you said:'who chooses proe not wrong' and i 'trusted'.
today i am well with my choice and i would like to know more and more about the instrument i have in my hands but between time and the poor resources to talk about courses is not enough! we hope for the future.. .
hi.
 
I'm definitely part of it, but I don't think I'm the only one. Indeed, since today I have received an advertising of solidworks 2012 directly from the forum ([email protected]), my reviews in proposing the evaluation of products that I trade vacillano.
T-flex test. I believe it is a superior product. and at least, it costs half. Given your uncertainty, it is an interesting parameter.
apart from this unfortunate suggestion, if, as I suppose you are interested in the robustness of the models, I think there are not many alternatives to products based on parasolid kernels. There are several to choose from, anyway.
 
Well, I'm flattered. . .
When I had to choose and I was so doubtful I must say that your interventions pushed me towards proe because it transpired, beyond your passion, even the 'power' of this cad. then once you said:'who chooses proe not wrong' and I 'trusted'.
Today I am well with my choice and I would like to know more and more about the instrument I have in my hands but between time and the poor resources to talk about courses is not enough! we hope for the future.. .
Hi.
Nice to read this thing really pleased me.
Since we're on the subject, have you ever received private advertising from me?
 
other consideration in favor of proe: at the hardware level, except for the graphics card (quadro, do not run away) is definitely what asks less among the cads proposed in this thread, at least according to my empirical experience.
 
Hello, matteo,
"empirical experience" is a very respectable thing, if it includes a comparative test of products on which you express yourself. But from what you say, I'm afraid your tests aren't complete.
do a test tour of t-flex 12, regarding the hardware/performance resource ratio.
among other things, in addition to the times of regeneration, calculation, discs, which are clearly lower than those of all the products mentioned on the thread, due to new low-level libraries that access directly to the resources of the gpu, does not require at all "obligatory" a picture: screen management also with gaming cards offers at least the same performance with professional high-end cards. Try to believe.
 
Also based on mine, I bought pro/e in 2006 (wf3) and installed it on two 64 bit machines with nvidia picture fx 3500 and 2gb ram (it was the standard ram for the 2 workstations).
Well I used them for years without having any problem (with wf4 and wf5), and this summer I tried them with creo 1.0, still no problem.
I decided to buy 2 8 giga kits, and now I have 10 ram giga on the two machines but, not because I had problems, I just wanted to see what happened by expanding the ram.
in certain things the difference is seen but, with 2 giga of ram the ptc products still work great.

What does that mean?

that you will save a lot of money for the hardware, once purchased you will last a sea of time, without need of updates.

also the notebook has 2 giga of ram (now I took a new one that should come to me shortly) card ati fire gl v5200, xp pro 32 and also here in the passage from wf3>wf4>wf5>creo no kind of problem in terms of performance.

that to tell you, ptc under this point of view works really well, we hope always continue like this.
 
Hello, matteo,
do a test tour of t-flex 12, regarding the hardware/performance resource ratio.
Gladly! I have seen that there is the possibility of a free trial, maybe you could put some links? I have the possibility to compare it with proe wf4, swx 2011, spaceclaim 2011+.
does not require at all "obligatoryly" a picture: screen management also with gaming cards offers at least the same performance with professional high-end cards. Try to believe.
directx? In fact, not having to go through a picture (opengl) is sometimes an advantage, it all depends on the type of applications.
 
Hello, matteo,
"empirical experience" is a very respectable thing, if it includes a comparative test of products on which you express yourself. But from what you say, I'm afraid your tests aren't complete.
I agree, but it's worth it. .
do a test tour of t-flex 12, regarding the hardware/performance resource ratio.
Looking at the minimum requirements doesn't seem to me. .
among other things, in addition to the times of regeneration, calculation, discs, which are clearly lower than those of all the products mentioned on the thread, due to new low-level libraries that access directly to the resources of the gpu, does not require at all "obligatory" a picture: screen management also with gaming cards offers at least the same performance with professional high-end cards. Try to believe.
[/QUOTE]Can you prove that? do you have benchmarks to show us facts about the product?
 
Masturbates !!!
speriamo che prende piede una bella sfida!!

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 
I don't do any more... I've already given! :smile:
ps: Did you then manage to watch the video I posted?
Yes yes!! in the wait (the 40 seconds) I also saw a lot of fixa:)


ps.

I wanted to deepen my speech for this I wanted to open a new thread cad in comparison to see the various philosophies of the associated parametric software explicit ecce eccc.
I'm preparing the bomb!
 
ps.

I wanted to deepen my speech for this I wanted to open a new thread cad in comparison to see the various philosophies of the associated parametric software explicit ecce eccc.
possibly trying to avoid using this forum as a showcase for its products, keeping the comparison on the technical side. otherwise we find ourselves with software demonstrators who make their demos on these pages and normal users who in life do other crafts and therefore do not have all that time to devote to responding to the challenges. The comparison would inevitably be false.

I answer you, but it's a courtesy that I would ask everyone, given the experiences of the past years.
 
possibly trying to avoid using this forum as a showcase for its products, keeping the comparison on the technical side. otherwise we find ourselves with software demonstrators who make their demos on these pages and normal users who in life do other crafts and therefore do not have all that time to devote to responding to the challenges. The comparison would inevitably be false.

I answer you, but it's a courtesy that I would ask everyone, given the experiences of the past years.
Of course.
 
Hello everyone.. .
I read several answers, and in general I know with pleasure some interest, and I think someone is willing to spend some of his time on a "go on the road". I'm very pleased.
I am updating the ftp site, uploading the release candidate version 12. This is a rc, I would ask the interested parties to send me an e-mail request for login-password for the ftp site, to which I will respond personally, at the address:

_at_sharemind.eu (change anti-spam address notation)I also ask the people who will carry out tests to report any problems or difficulties to me.

a few short notes:
t-flex is a vast and complex program. Although many do not know it, it is the first parametric cad presented to the world in windows environment.
without anything to remove to your professionalism, I would suggest you also download the tutorials, even if at the moment updated to version 11.
otherwise it would be like to make a test turn on a 747, turning the keys in the dashboard and taking off.
t-flex architecture is different from that of most parasolid-based mcads. there is a single multidocument environment for sketches, 2d drawings, texts, databases, electronic sheets, db, parts, assemblies, fems, sheets, dynamics etc. there is a single file format. do not feel distracted if you do not find many different modules. There are no. There's only one interface to do everything. from a design cad parametric from scratch, to an assembly with 10000 parts, to a booklet of use and maintenance with the integrated dtp environment. in case of difficulty, ask.
the approaches to the project can indifferently be from 3d to 2d and from 2d to 3d. it is worth trying the difference.
Assembling approaches can be indifferently mainstream or top down. also here, it is worth trying the difference.
the sheet section can perform successfully on the floor also imported non-parameter models, e.g. iges or 3dm produced by rhinoceros. to experiment, for those who use sheets.

said this, I wish you good fun. of course, they are available for any clarification, conversation, dislocation. I love my job.

p.s.
for parametric_ozzy:
Excuse me, but where did you see the minimum prerequisites? have never been published. . .
 
a few short notes:
t-flex is a vast and complex program. even if many do not know him, is the first parametric cad presented to the world in windows environment.
Unfortunately in this period I am really under pressure so I will certainly not intervene very much.. .
I'm just curious about your statement.
t-flex was the first parametric cad in windows environment?
when did the first windows come? (I mean w-nt obviously... w3.1 was little more than a toy, with 16-bit redirection)

I ask you because I remember well that in conjunction with the presentation of windows-nt by microsoft, ptc presented pro/e on that operating system... I go to memory... pro/e v15... and more parametric than pro/e...
 

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