Andrea - Overcam
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creates a sw design, or a real image or model, and then tell me what you want to change
PiegatoreSolidworks
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I'll send you the link...
http://www.mediafire.com/view/x2svf31k7juept3/assieme_barbecuein this together I started from the powerhouse and then gone cascading with the other details that are all related. Now if I change a radius or a position, I automatically change the whole axieme. apart from this, with which system you start to create and, above all, change, such a set with sc? I don't know if I explained, in case you ask me... thank you in advance.
PiegatoreSolidworks
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I wanted to relaunch the pending discussion.. .
Andrea - Overcam
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Yes, I analyzed the design, but I miss the time to make a video for the moment. I reply verbally.
Unfortunately when talking about primitive curves and associations a feature based behaves better, vice versa if this model was made with inventor and imported it with step solidworks I know you should do almost everything. instead with sc I can change a lot with a few steps.
change
height change - simple (5 seconds)
change support position (internal folded part) and its hole - simple (1 minute)
change of depth (distance between curved parts) - very simple (5 seconds)
change of the radius of the curve, repositioning and intersection with the other parts - average (2 minutes)
Unfortunately when talking about primitive curves and associations a feature based behaves better, vice versa if this model was made with inventor and imported it with step solidworks I know you should do almost everything. instead with sc I can change a lot with a few steps.
change
height change - simple (5 seconds)change support position (internal folded part) and its hole - simple (1 minute)
change of depth (distance between curved parts) - very simple (5 seconds)
change of the radius of the curve, repositioning and intersection with the other parts - average (2 minutes)
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PiegatoreSolidworks
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Hi go, I'm sorry I wrote again, but I didn't hear you again! I'm glad you don't have time, because it means you have to work! ....what to say, I'm even more curious to compare the video and compare it to the working method I used with sw.
I'm not in a hurry. we feel next and good work.
Mar
Andrea - Overcam
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but would the video want it on creation or modification?
PiegatoreSolidworks
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I'd say the change. the thing that intrigues me is the shift of the drawer seat not in a circular way as you see from the photo, but well along the x axis. Does the profile change automatically?
PiegatoreSolidworks
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Hello go, I attack this old discussion to avoid opening another... I wanted to ask you the difference between your old video (request from me) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecm2vyshtxc and this other one I found yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9hwvz6ptx8in the latter the system of construction is very close to that of solidworks (which I use occasionally), while that of the port is created in a different way.... how come these differences? What changes? Thank you, Marco.
Andrea - Overcam
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hi marco (we gave us some you!),
the difference is that the "prepare beam" is a function of preparation for the fem, structural calculation, i.e. see the profiles (also connected with each other) but are not solid; in the video that I did instead I created the solid models.
today there is a plugin called weldments that allows to do what makes solidworks (perhaps uses the same component), to practice from one sketch (which you can also change later) creates profiles connected (cut/set) from one database. then unravel the bom (different base) with lengths and angles.
the difference is that the "prepare beam" is a function of preparation for the fem, structural calculation, i.e. see the profiles (also connected with each other) but are not solid; in the video that I did instead I created the solid models.
today there is a plugin called weldments that allows to do what makes solidworks (perhaps uses the same component), to practice from one sketch (which you can also change later) creates profiles connected (cut/set) from one database. then unravel the bom (different base) with lengths and angles.
PiegatoreSolidworks
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Exactly, like solidworks! but with your soluzine you can also extrapolate a table of cuts and lengths, or do you have to create a series of single cards of the various components? Thank you.
Andrea - Overcam
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with my solution components are generically solid, the program can automatically create a distinct base of components with 3 x,y,z dimensions but not angles, which can be added by inserting an extra column.
Xythras
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excuse the introduction, but in the last release spaceclaim became the modeler of ansys?
Andrea - Overcam
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Yes, it was acquired by ansys and is used by fem to prepare imported/created models
fabiovello
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hi to everyone and hi to go, I read all the discussion is I would also take advantage of your knowledge. .
Until today I have used a good variety of cad from 2d to 3d from cadkey 2d to swx if inventor cocreate and currently visi, I love direct modeling but some cads like the visi, which for other is in the first place a cam, are a wedge on the feet when you start talking about modification, table, distinct, series of details on the same assembly, forcings, ducts, cinemas
with cad as swx do everything and more but in my work where we make prototypes, maybe a same group is reused several times as a starting base and adapted to the need of the moment or just to insert it into a layout...
Perhaps I have exaggerated but currently with the system that we are using we lose the productivity of direct modeling in phase management boards especially because if I happen a small change I lose everything on the table... we do not talk about the subdivision of the project in groups, I never have an updated set because my groups, managed also by different designers do not communicate and update a set... .
help me!
Thank you in advance! !
Until today I have used a good variety of cad from 2d to 3d from cadkey 2d to swx if inventor cocreate and currently visi, I love direct modeling but some cads like the visi, which for other is in the first place a cam, are a wedge on the feet when you start talking about modification, table, distinct, series of details on the same assembly, forcings, ducts, cinemas
with cad as swx do everything and more but in my work where we make prototypes, maybe a same group is reused several times as a starting base and adapted to the need of the moment or just to insert it into a layout...
Perhaps I have exaggerated but currently with the system that we are using we lose the productivity of direct modeling in phase management boards especially because if I happen a small change I lose everything on the table... we do not talk about the subdivision of the project in groups, I never have an updated set because my groups, managed also by different designers do not communicate and update a set... .
help me!
Thank you in advance! !
Andrea - Overcam
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Hello fabio,
It is not very simple to answer why I should specifically see the problems that other software have on your models, but I try to imagine what they are (and maybe we will go further).
changes: the modifications on a direct modeler are "artistic", very free and powerful, you are able to make changes drawing, dragging, rotating. the main difficulties occur when there are surfaces that do not fall between cylinders and planes (e.g. spline or fitting surfaces). a traditional cad has the advantage that if you plan well changing the initial sketch everything is changed... to create the model but you put the triple of time and get lost between the constraints is easy.
in direct modeling cad instead it is simple to create and make changes like: extension, change radius, move.. .
table setting: is always connected to the 3d model or assembly, you do not lose anything with a change (unless you tell a face and then delete it!). according to me it works very well, as the distinct (bom) is always connected to assembly and self-driving.
series: there are series of forms (e.g. holes and protusions within a piece) and series of parts. They work well for me.
threads: they are simulated, do not weigh the design, but are not "real", they are only an image wrapped on screws and holes. in the table they become thread notes.
pipes: I don't know what you mean, but you can create tube developments and fittings (special fittings thanks to the smo+ plugin). if you mean cut profiles you can create manually (for extrusion), run along a sketch (see video of which he was talking) or use weldments (the plugin similar or equal to what is in solidworks).
Forces? ?
cinematisms: you can bind more parts and see the movement. there is also a plugin that serves to make video or program motion cycles: http://www.ar-cad.com/sc-motion/index.htmlcommercial: use tracepart and cadenas web catalogs, you can download models for free and save on your pc
components: an assembly can work as on traditional cads (setting file + particular files), or otherwise have only one file that contains all the assembled details (such as a step), or still mixed with a file that contains some assembled details and link to other externally recalled components (used on other assemblies).
I think I do the best thing we could do is let you try it, and if you want me to recommend it before you see it through a live demonstration, I can show you "what happens if..." answering your questions (e.g. what happens if you update a particular on the other assemblies that contain it).
find my signature references.
It is not very simple to answer why I should specifically see the problems that other software have on your models, but I try to imagine what they are (and maybe we will go further).
changes: the modifications on a direct modeler are "artistic", very free and powerful, you are able to make changes drawing, dragging, rotating. the main difficulties occur when there are surfaces that do not fall between cylinders and planes (e.g. spline or fitting surfaces). a traditional cad has the advantage that if you plan well changing the initial sketch everything is changed... to create the model but you put the triple of time and get lost between the constraints is easy.
in direct modeling cad instead it is simple to create and make changes like: extension, change radius, move.. .
table setting: is always connected to the 3d model or assembly, you do not lose anything with a change (unless you tell a face and then delete it!). according to me it works very well, as the distinct (bom) is always connected to assembly and self-driving.
series: there are series of forms (e.g. holes and protusions within a piece) and series of parts. They work well for me.
threads: they are simulated, do not weigh the design, but are not "real", they are only an image wrapped on screws and holes. in the table they become thread notes.
pipes: I don't know what you mean, but you can create tube developments and fittings (special fittings thanks to the smo+ plugin). if you mean cut profiles you can create manually (for extrusion), run along a sketch (see video of which he was talking) or use weldments (the plugin similar or equal to what is in solidworks).
Forces? ?
cinematisms: you can bind more parts and see the movement. there is also a plugin that serves to make video or program motion cycles: http://www.ar-cad.com/sc-motion/index.htmlcommercial: use tracepart and cadenas web catalogs, you can download models for free and save on your pc
components: an assembly can work as on traditional cads (setting file + particular files), or otherwise have only one file that contains all the assembled details (such as a step), or still mixed with a file that contains some assembled details and link to other externally recalled components (used on other assemblies).
I think I do the best thing we could do is let you try it, and if you want me to recommend it before you see it through a live demonstration, I can show you "what happens if..." answering your questions (e.g. what happens if you update a particular on the other assemblies that contain it).
find my signature references.
fabiovello
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series--> together if I generate a series of details such as rollers of a transport and at some point I decide to add a processing or change the diameter, what happens to the rest of the series? Do I have to erase it to remake it or car upgrade? or maybe I could create the external file called back? and if I have to change the pace of all or some components? or miss someone?
Forces?? --> drilling can be handled different types of gas, metric, inch threads?
piping --> sometimes I happen to create diamond paths in 3 axes keeping the path walls constant, I attach a step
I'm considering whether to try a demo or make a presentation in the company, but I would like to get in front of the owner with a clear situation and possibly already break the cad.
if I think of anything else I write to you
Do you know the visi?
Can you tell me videos that help me solve my doubts?
View attachment 5169_00.rarThank you.
Andrea - Overcam
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the elements in series are all connected together, as a copy of a particular. modifying one of them all (both holes and if they are components), but they can be made independent when they no longer need to be a copy of the other.
So I'd say they're autonating each change. the series can be as said of forms, internal components or external files
after creating a series I can subsequently change 3 things (I change one parameter, bond another and the 3rd is calculated): number, total distance, step. If you want to skip some components you can definitely delete it (I don't know what happens then trying to change the number or step...)... to try!
Yes, there are the various series of threads, there is a xml table with the different (and numerous) series, but you can create other threads (they are not true geometries, but graphic indications and notes in table)
Yes, you can create tubulars that follow your dima (with "transcina" indicating the curve to follow). in the project you sent me there is also some fitting, those should be modified later. other problem substantially changing the dima I should repeat the creation (some modifications I could not make) once the tubular is created there is no connection between pipe and sketch (unless with certain types of profiles you do not use weldments, the plugin I mentioned above).
Yes, I recommend you both. Keep in mind that you can make a very difficult online presentation. . remote desktop phone, without coming to the company.
for fame, it would be interesting to see it and see how it behaves in the cases indicated by you.
If you need I could create you as soon as I have a short 2 minute video when I create a tube from a sketch
I then create a whole quot, change it, insert components from a library and create a series.
fabiovello
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I ask you one more thing, model 3d and her putting the table only tied and among them in direct access? If you touch a component, can I go directly to your table 2d? and from duo 2d to 3d? the mirror command performed on a component, generates a new detail related to the father or not?
Andrea - Overcam
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Yes, the 3d and its setting are always connected, I can change a hole from the table and see the change on the 3d and vice versa. table 2d can be generated automatically (less than quotas) and be saved within a component or assembly and I can step by step by step from one to another because they are 2 interconnected cards.
the mirror command creates a mirrored component tied to the father, changing one changes the other.
fabiovello
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Obviously that then a cad should be used 8/10 hours a day to understand potential and limits but I ask myself, given the potential si sc, because most companies are bound to constraints and parameters that are never used as such?
I still want to know one thing, is there a possibility to save in dwg with relative autocad styles maybe defined by a client?
where do you find more use? they tell me for sheet metal development, but I find it very versatile. . .
I still want to know one thing, is there a possibility to save in dwg with relative autocad styles maybe defined by a client?
where do you find more use? they tell me for sheet metal development, but I find it very versatile. . .