network cad3d designers in italy

[Er Presidente]

you cannot be appointed in vain:
You're the one I know. the network and superimpose to the whole technology of the galaxy.
:biggrin:

if, all talk!


p.s.: the gift? What gift? Wait for me to check, but is that what I think?

 

[maxopus]

if, all talk!


p.s.: the gift? What gift? Wait for me to check, but is that what I think?

si :smile:

 

[Er Presidente]

I don't want to be an antipath, but I prefer to dissolve the doubts before:

1) the first thing to put into place is the mechanism with which you pass the work: for exclusion that you can rely on abstract concepts such as "buonsenso" or "street of hand"

2) in my opinion something like this is suitable for those who already work on their own: is not a technical judgement but is a speech of "motivations" and availability of time and flexibility (it is not a second job in short)

I work 90 hours a week (20 me and 70 my ego) or nada! So, nada!
:biggrin:

 

[Matteo]

I work 90 hours a week (20 me and 70 my ego) or nada! So, nada!
:biggrin:

I don't understand.

 

[maxopus]

I don't want to be an antipath, but I prefer to dissolve the doubts before:

1) the first thing to put into place is the mechanism with which you pass the work: for exclusion that you can rely on abstract concepts such as "buonsenso" or "street of hand"

2) in my opinion something like this is suitable for those who already work on their own: is not a technical judgement but is a speech of "motivations" and availability of time and flexibility (it is not a second job in short)

We are talking about a complex thing and complex things must be regulated and the rules are put in writing, I think the risk of aleatorial things is not there.

on the second point I would have some doubt.

There can be people who with 10 hours of weekly commitment open channels to which you had not even thought.
so, at the moment I wouldn't rule out this possibility.
the important thing for me is that a person if he makes a commitment must carry it forward even if small.

 

[Matteo]

There can be people who with 10 hours of weekly commitment open channels to which you had not even thought.

No doubt!

the important thing for me is that a person if he makes a commitment must carry it forward even if small.

the problem is "when" (in the evening hours? and if the customer requires a meeting?) and "how" (I declare that fixed work will always have priority. . )

 

[linch]

I mainly deal with machines for steel plants, therefore imposing structures with high precision mechanics.
every now and then some special machine, and dulcis in fundo what occupies my "free time":
a never finished study of a system that derives electricity from the pyrolysis of biomass.
I could also give my willingness, but on condition that "the volunteer/i" carries his own "portow" and does not ask me the day after "what do I have to do"?

 

[Matteo]

I could also give my willingness, provided that "the volunteer/i" carries his own "portow" and does not ask me the day after "what do I have to do"?

I mean? What do you mean by charm?

 

[maxopus]

No doubt!


the problem is "when" (in the evening hours? and if the customer requires a meeting?) and "how" (I declare that fixed work will always have priority. . )

Matteo, we're gonna have to meet.
so bring this and all the doubts that come to mind.
will be the subject of discussion and we will see from the comparison what comes out of it.

I mainly deal with machines for steel plants, therefore imposing structures with high precision mechanics.
every now and then some special machine, and dulcis in fundo what occupies my "free time":
a never finished study of a system that derives electricity from the pyrolysis of biomass.
I could also give my willingness, but on condition that "the volunteer/i" carries his own "portow" and does not ask me the day after "what do I have to do"?

I'll put you on the list.
As for the projects we have in mind, they will certainly be put on the plate and examined, it was nothing but to discuss concrete cases and what are the doubts and problems to be solved ... and the rules we have to give.

 

[maxopus]

updated list of sturmtruppen:

- Mr President
- ip design
- Matteo
- linch
- maxopus

hunting and gerod, 'sing are you?

 

[linch]

I mean? What do you mean by charm?

Obviously not cash, but a workload that allows (to the volunteer) at least for the first time a quiet "survival".

 

[maxopus]

Obviously not cash, but a workload that allows (to the volunteer) at least for the first time a quiet "survival".

This linen should be obvious.
who puts himself on the net is true that he does it to widen his own lap, but he should have to do with his own.
in the sense that it cannot ask the network neither money nor that the network provides entirely to its needs in terms of work (at least at the beginning).

then it can also happen a significant barrel but, in an initial phase I don't think.

 

[davide75]

I would like to participate only that I did not leave iva and working as an employee is a mess with the times I do because sometimes I am abroad for work and do not have a my office.
But let's say I would like to share experiences

 

[maxopus]

I would like to participate only that I did not leave iva and working as an employee is a mess with the times I do because sometimes I am abroad for work and do not have a my office.
But let's say I would like to share experiences

Hello, David, let's see what others think of it.
But am I wrong or do I have to make you something?

 

[gil]

defined well what should consortium do? For example:
1) is a pack of commercials that removes comesse and divides them into fractions of the subscribers?

2) subscribers who already have a contract, turn to the consortium to find the skills they lack. I wonder, why do you ask the consortium and not the ingenious neighbor?

What advantages are there going through the consortium instead of outside?

 

[marcof]

What should the consortium do? For example:
1) is a pack of commercials. . .
(cut)

ah, what evocative image of serene bucolic landscapes.
You should propose to direct the marketing of the new consortium. but also not...

 

[Meccbell]

I see that the same questions and doubts as we had when we started our "adventure".

this is good, because it compels to make synthesis of all the "mirabulant" ideas that blend in the head when approaching an innovative thing like this and giving itself a structured and linear path.

But at the same time it can be a terrible danger, as if you insist too much on "brainstorming" the risk is to get out of "brain" and advance only with "storming".
in a few words, the risk of the initial phase is to burn energies in more or less fantastic elucubrations on the "if", that is:
How will we do if...
What if...
Who cares about... if...
and if... if... if...
However quiet, in this phase we have passed of mech-net, as there have been all those who we heard and who had already consolidated their networks.

the best and easiest remedy is to "do" something at once.
What?
absolutely nothing exceptional or incredibly complex, indeed, almost a game.

do so: give yourself a clear task with an expiry, for example each put down, according to a scheme (a module) equal for all, its own personal solution to 3 or 4 questions, with maximum 30 words.

the questions could be something like:
1) what exactly you should handle your network
2) in how many you would like to be at least to participate in the project and in how many (not who, I recommend) will have to "command" operations
3) how the "production cycle" of the network should be structured
4) how to manage the income derived from the work obtained through the network and how to participate in the management expenses

agree on who will pick up the answers and at the end of the term he will find a scheme, like excel sheet, which will reinvigorate others.

at that point everyone will see the answers of others and will have to choose one and only for each question, possibly not his own, unless he is firmly and indissolubly convinced that his is the best in absolute (but then he will have to be ready to defend it "with the teeth" at the plenario table).
in this way everyone will have to exercise his critical spirit on a circumscribed rose of options, without being able to add or remove anything written.
therefore it will be clear that your answers will have to be the best of the best that you can think of for that given question and that in this way you will have to immediately try to think of answers that are not only the best of the best for you, but that they are also for all others.

at this point you will remake the round and finally you will have the definitive scheme of options to discuss, refine, assemble in " plenary assembly" to get your first version of your future internal regulation.

seems to be a game of society and not so clever, but you will still be given a goal on which to work together and whose meeting will have a dual value:
> as already said, in the end you will have put down a small shared regulation, perhaps with difficulty and obtained after heated discussions and even, if needed, votes (it is democracy, beauty...). Of course this mini regulation will be to be tested "on the field", but you will need to start working immediately and concretely.
> you will have "carried home" a result at first sight secondary, but in reality first order, that is to have done the first job together, that will not have made you earn even a penny, but indeed it will cost you, but that will be the first tick on the list of "made things".

at that point your "long march" will be started and so you can do nothing but move forward.

 

[numero1]

Beautiful 3ad, I've been following him from the beginning. :smile:
for the moment I can't say I want to come in., given my current situation .... in the future who knows. :frown:
I still care to follow it, and if I can give some opinion here on the forum.....
However in case of a possible free advice, always here on the forum, I do (male) everything.
excluding aircraft, cars, various engines.... I designed/designed:
1) fire (a billion years ago)
2) Construction (poca)
3) ships and their plants even if very sectoral
4) medium/large size industrial plant, when not very large
5) nuclear power stations :tongue:
I find this 3ad very nice also because people present what they do in a + in-depth way, and so everyone knows the other better.
Hi.

 

[davide75]

maxopus perhaps memory is making clecks for me too, but what should you make me? ? ?

 

[Mauri:66]

beautiful futurist idea,
I am dependent but I still exist. . .