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[gtemp]

(cut) briefly, we invested on a pdm 3 years ago, not yesterday.
we tried to adapt our reality to the purchased product and not vice versa.

 

[maxopus]

The distinct base is a black beast... You don't know where he's coming from, where he's going and where he's going.

I ask a few questions:
the distinct base until you have to push? i.e. a product to what do you want to know? The answer would be all but...
of a machine in addition to the mechanical components drawing, commercial minutery, electrical components etc. what do you insert?
you can also prevent any specific electrical wiring meters with relative cable clamps, clamps etc. hydraulic systems with pipe fittings etc., quantities of oil, kg of paint etc.? ?

the beauty of every company would come to these knowledge in detail but will remain utopia if to the technical office that designs and makes the distinct does not leave the material time to store the necessary data.

Moreover to do all this it takes time, that is always what is missing, so often incomplete machines are sent in production that will be updated in course of work, always that those who notice of shortcomings/errors have the common sense to communicate or write such things, otherwise the time after the error will be equal.

you tequila, you can have everything, in certain products I also insert welding, painting, packaging (polystals, boxes, cases).
today's tools allow you to do things as a rule of art.
But you have to use them properly, if they tell you not to do them and proceed to manina they will surely lose more time than you.
you have the project under control and you know perfectly if a distinct is correct, they should do it and, as they are not the technical office, they run the big risk of making caxxate.
in the last company in which I worked as an employee the u.t. did everything, project, distinct and working cycles, including the input to system of the processing account.

 

[The_Matrix]

you tequila, you can have everything, in certain products I also insert welding, painting, packaging (polystals, boxes, cases).
today's tools allow you to do things as a rule of art.
But you have to use them properly, if they tell you not to do them and proceed to manina they will surely lose more time than you.
you have the project under control and you know perfectly if a distinct is correct, they should do it and, as they are not the technical office, they run the big risk of making caxxate.
in the last company in which I worked as an employee the u.t. did everything, project, distinct and working cycles, including the input to system of the processing account.

Hello, Max
probably the stray also depends on whether you have an erp system at home...
production planning I think it's better to do it there, including polystyrene...:wink:
then you can talk about manufacturing where, along with the product for itself, you have the management of all materials, tools etc.
speech that becomes interesting, but probably a little long.

 

[The_Matrix]

Well tequila, not by chance audits are always done before lunch and when the inspectors come out, you see them go away always smiling, with the cars thirsty style return holiday from the south, where inside the trunk, between hams, wine boxes and local products, could open a store.:biggrin:


If I propose a day of business requirement, they look at me badly, they ask me what it takes, why they have to pay it, etc..
if I propose 2 they usually pretend that the phone rings and with an excuse they no longer fall....
If I propose 3, there is the security man who kindly asks me to abandon the company... .
for training not strictly connected to the use of the instrument even worse, when I speak for example of the rule of f3 or 3f in Italian, ask me in what part of the Swiss I graduated and I usually reply that in the business card I do not have the abbreviation dr.. and that until a few years ago I was a simple mechanical designer who spent 8 hours a day at the cad to model.
I'm still... I didn't get a bachelor's degree.

Your example reflects everything...
:biggrin:

Sometimes... rarely. . just because we are siemens.. .
They buy us analysis days... And they pay us...
It is not a guarantee that things go well and get convinced to change even "antique" processes.
Then, actually, it also depends on who conducts the analysis.. .

 

[maxopus]

Hello, Max
probably the stray also depends on whether you have an erp system at home...
production planning I think it's better to do it there, including polystyrene...:wink:
then you can talk about manufacturing where, along with the product for itself, you have the management of all materials, tools etc.
speech that becomes interesting, but probably a little long.

hi beppe, certainly if you do not have a proper management system it is useless to talk about the rest.
for those who design with cad of a certain type seems to me a delirium not exploit its functions and potential.
it is as if the salamier continued to make accounts to the customer on the bread card while having the cash register (or the calculator).
in some companies putroppo is so.

The company I was talking about, was a company that was working on sheet metal.
had purchased 7 licenses of a 3d cad with sheet development module.
They had used it for years as autocad lt, calculating hand developments.
when I arrived, after fighting with the boss, we started using it as you had to ... and after a while that became the company design standard.
the mentality is very hard to change and often encounter unsurpassed cultural rocks.

 

[The_Matrix]

hi beppe, certainly if you do not have a proper management system it is useless to talk about the rest.
for those who design with cad of a certain type seems to me a delirium not exploit its functions and potential.
it is as if the salamier continued to make accounts to the customer on the bread card while having the cash register (or the calculator).
in some companies putroppo is so.

The company I was talking about, was a company that was working on sheet metal.
had purchased 7 licenses of a 3d cad with sheet development module.
They had used it for years as autocad lt, calculating hand developments.
when I arrived, after fighting with the boss, we started using it as you had to ... and after a while that became the company design standard.the mentality is hard to change and often encounter unsurpassed cultural discoveries.

there are 3 ways to deal with change – resist it, embrace it, or create it.

tu sei, giustamente, perchè sei una persona intelligente, sulla terza...:finger:

 

[maxopus]

there are 3 ways to deal with change – resist it, embrace it, or create it.

tu sei, giustamente, perchè sei una persona intelligente, sulla terza...:finger:

cass ... I'm a creative and I didn't know it:biggrin:
Thanks beppe I don't know how to quantify my intelligence, I certainly try them all before I surrender.

 

[The_Matrix]

cass ... I'm a creative and I didn't know it:biggrin:
Thanks beppe I don't know how to quantify my intelligence, I certainly try them all before I surrender.

Great attitude... not so common.. .

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

(cut)
briefly, we invested on a pdm 3 years ago, not yesterday.
we tried to adapt our reality to the purchased product and not vice versa.

So you're telling me that it's been three years since you cleaned up your pse?

 

[maxopus]

(cut)

beppe I have always thought (although I have only known you to escape in a very short evening where I caxxeggiavo with the notebook and pro/e wf3 :smile that you are not a fesso and then press me to clarify the matter or at least express my opinion.

Unfortunately on cad3d things have happened in the past that have led to breaks, escapes, returns, expulsions and things of this kind.
You know what it is.
It's not my turn to judge whether those were right or wrong decisions.
It is in fact that all this has left an uncovered nerve and when in the area on the comparisons of mechanical cads touch arguments of that type, or appoint certain people, inevitably triggers the alarm.

to avoid repeating that situation (how long has passed ... I do not remember if 3 or 4 years) and that people used the forum only to pull water to their mill, rules have been adopted.

Among those rules there is also that when a user (as historical as you) contests in public the work of a moderator is at least admonished.

Now rebuild everything, establish who is responsible ... I started or you started ..... I don't care and I don't even want it (perhaps for laziness).

I think you can be a useful resource for this community.

I think it would be good if all of us (I first) avoid stabbing ourselves constantly on the respective instruments used/sold/represented.

we are (you and many others) adult people who can get many positive things, in terms first of all human and then professional, from mutual comparison.

But we must have a more relaxed and peaceful attitude.

for now I end, but an unbearable papiello comes out.

Greetings.
Max.

 

[The_Matrix]

beppe I have always thought (although I have only known you to escape in a very short evening where I caxxeggiavo with the notebook and pro/e wf3 :smile that you are not a fesso and then press me to clarify the matter or at least express my opinion.

Unfortunately on cad3d things have happened in the past that have led to breaks, escapes, returns, expulsions and things of this kind.
You know what it is.
It's not my turn to judge whether those were right or wrong decisions.
It is in fact that all this has left an uncovered nerve and when in the area on the comparisons of mechanical cads touch arguments of that type, or appoint certain people, inevitably triggers the alarm.

to avoid repeating that situation (how long has passed ... I do not remember if 3 or 4 years) and that people used the forum only to pull water to their mill, rules have been adopted.

Among those rules there is also that when a user (as historical as you) contests in public the work of a moderator is at least admonished.

Now rebuild everything, establish who is responsible ... I started or you started ..... I don't care and I don't even want it (perhaps for laziness).

I think you can be a useful resource for this community.

I think it would be good if all of us (I first) avoid stabbing ourselves constantly on the respective instruments used/sold/represented.

we are (you and many others) adult people who can get many positive things, in terms first of all human and then professional, from mutual comparison.

But we must have a more relaxed and peaceful attitude.

for now I end, but an unbearable papiello comes out.

Greetings.
Max.

Hello, Max
You don't understand. .
here is a user who allows you to write that reads in this discussion a Great odds (casz.ate? cag.ate? fai you...) And it's all right. .
I write to a man who knows what a "role" in nx (even you have ever opened nx, only by name, you could understand) that users so it is better to lose them than to find them and I'm seated the post and everything that followed.. .
I say that nx/swx even if they share the same kernel do not produce equal results and I'm being cheated on the post...
I would very much like to have a uniformity of judgment and not an unjustified prejudice against me.
That's all.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

Hello, Max
You don't understand. .
here is a user who allows you to write that reads in this discussion a Great odds (casz.ate? cag.ate? fai you...) And it's all right. .
I write to a man who knows what a "role" in nx (even you have ever opened nx, only by name, you could understand) that users so it is better to lose them than to find them and I'm seated the post and everything that followed.. .
I say that nx/swx even if they share the same kernel do not produce equal results and I'm being cheated on the post...
I would very much like to have a uniformity of judgment and not an unjustified prejudice against me.
That's all.

actually beppe is right, I followed the discussions "incriminate" and did not say anything wrong to deserve this treatment.

 

[The_Matrix]

I think it would be good if everyone (I first) avoid dangling us constantly on the respective instruments used/sold/represented.

Greetings.
Max.

That's... We would miss that I didn't stab you on that terrible lack of pro/e... they had to make a fool to correct it. . .
:hahahah:
... and you know what I mean!! !

 

[gtemp]

I apologize for the words said that the moderator has promptly cut, I did not want to offend anyone and much less to provoke controversy and friction between users.
It was a moment of nervousness, since we find ourselves a little in trouble with tcx.
rightly everyone comments by evaluating what is written in the forum, not knowing the real situation.
I would like you to come back and confront us more about the technical argument rather than deviate about other kinds of discussions.
greetings

 

[Tequila]

In fact, now that I also look at my intervention was eliminated Maybe it was better so but I didn't seem to yell at other users while being explicit how written

 

[gtemp]

exhilarating situation.
It's just true as they say in rome, ask the bear if the wine is bono, or everyone takes the water to his mill!
a says that users who use b software are discouraging and switch to a software
b says that users who use a software are discouraging and switch to b software

at this point no one tells you right, and the hard-to-experienced eur! !

 

[re_solidworks]

Well, you can't expect a commercial to do the opposite, it's not honest, but the attitude is normally that.
the most is when you go to a demo or do a software course at and then the presenter/docent speaks more of the hypothetical defects of the software b than the real qualities of the software a.

 

[dolfin]

incredible, in 3 years of forum attendance, everything where beppe is always a discussion!:biggrin:

 

[The_Matrix]

incredible, in 3 years of forum attendance, everything where beppe is always a discussion!:biggrin:

Hello dolfin.
here the speech is a little different.. .
There are thousands of teamcenter sites in the world, from the smallest to the huge ones.
we really have them all...

then comes gtemp and suddenly tc becomes a m...

Anyway, I think I have the right to defend the product I represent, as gtemp has the right to say it's a...

I took it because gtemp can be allowed to write that here they write tides of cagate... while I am uncleanly cut post...
but this is past water.

 

[RuleDesigner]

> I took it because gtemp can be written that there are tides of cagate. . .


Excuse me if I interfere but I read things that cry revenge!!!!
products, in my opinion, must be defended with facts, not with words.it is not enough that a product uses the nose to make sure that it is the panacea of every evil.
If a customer is dissatisfied, it is not true that it is always his fault.also a good product can not be suitable for all types of company and all contexts.
gtemp I don't know him, but I get it.

gtemp was "fregated" by someone who sold him an unsuitable product to his company or in any case to his context.
for this he is angry.
and how not to give him reason!!!!

it had to know the commercial (if it is a serious professional) that was selling a product too complex, too articulate or however not suitable, to such customer, by size, for economic or infrastructural availability! ! !

should therefore (if he is a serious professional) think customer premium that to its quarterly goal.

Moreover having skeletons in the closet is much more harmful than losing a sale....

Am I wrong?